06-16-2015, 05:11 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by BigTuna
Actually, the summer is the time to make big deals with larger cap hits.
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Trade deadline is the better time to get a "pick and a prospect" from teams that need NHL players to make the POs.
Heading into this deep draft, teams are getting excited about the players they may pick.
And sure, you can make a "big cap hit" deal. Maybe the Leafs can get another long term injury guy for Kessell, like they did with Clarkson. Maybe Pronger.
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06-16-2015, 05:11 PM
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#82
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
It would be the same for any player on a long term big money deal. The odds of Kessel scoring at the same rate and not missing any games during the next 6 or 7 year span is pretty much zero.
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But if you get Rick Nash, you're getting him in the second hslf of the contract.
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06-16-2015, 05:11 PM
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#83
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by BigTuna
These questions don't seem to come up with any other players.
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People question the value of the later years of contracts all the time. Mark Giordano is a hero in this city, and in discussions about his contract extension a lot of fans question the wisdom of a $7 mil cap hit when he's in his late 30s.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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06-16-2015, 05:12 PM
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#84
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Trade deadline is the better time to get a "pick and a prospect" from teams that need NHL players to make the POs.
Heading into this deep draft, teams are getting excited about the players they may pick.
And sure, you can make a "big cap hit" deal. Maybe the Leafs can get another long term injury guy for Kessell, like they did with Clarkson. Maybe Pronger.
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We see a lot of trades at the draft. There's a lot of talk of this year being particularly big.
The trade xeadline is for upcoming UFA's mostly.
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06-16-2015, 05:13 PM
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTuna
But if you get Rick Nash, you're getting him in the second hslf of the contract.
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I never mentioned Rick Nash. No idea what he has to do with Kessel's contract or future.
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06-16-2015, 05:16 PM
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#86
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTuna
We see a lot of trades at the draft. There's a lot of talk of this year being particularly big.
The trade xeadline is for upcoming UFA's mostly.
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You were asking why Perron got a first. It was partly because the Pens were depleted and were in a dogfight to make the POs.
No one is in a dogfight to make the POs now, and they are getting excited about the first round.
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06-16-2015, 05:59 PM
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Kessel's list of teams don't make much sense, assuming he wants out of TO. But if the Leafs kept $2-3M of Kessel's cap hit I can definitely see him getting a 1st and a prospect. The Leafs will have to either take some of the cap hit or take some really bad contracts to make a deal happen, though. Like Lecavalier + MacDonald or something like that.
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06-16-2015, 06:36 PM
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#88
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
You were asking why Perron got a first. It was partly because the Pens were depleted and were in a dogfight to make the POs.
No one is in a dogfight to make the POs now, and they are getting excited about the first round.
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Bigger trades are made in the summer. And yes, picks are traded all the time.
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06-16-2015, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cannon7
Kessel's list of teams don't make much sense, assuming he wants out of TO. But if the Leafs kept $2-3M of Kessel's cap hit I can definitely see him getting a 1st and a prospect. The Leafs will have to either take some of the cap hit or take some really bad contracts to make a deal happen, though. Like Lecavalier + MacDonald or something like that.
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Lecalvier+ Macdonald mean Philly will get him for free financially.
Wow you guys will be astounded when he's moved if you expect the Leafs to take back over 9 million per in cap hit for years
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06-16-2015, 08:03 PM
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#90
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTuna
Bigger trades are made in the summer. And yes, picks are traded all the time.
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You are missing the point.
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06-16-2015, 09:57 PM
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Backup Goalie
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Interesting list. I think only Philly would be dumb enough to make a trade for Phil. Phil in Philly could be a thing
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06-16-2015, 10:04 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTuna
Lecalvier+ Macdonald mean Philly will get him for free financially.
Wow you guys will be astounded when he's moved if you expect the Leafs to take back over 9 million per in cap hit for years
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I can't wait until he is traded as I think you are going to be so disappointed
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06-16-2015, 10:41 PM
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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Originally Posted by BigTuna
And in September's training, he had the 3rd best fitness results on the Leafs. Don't listen to the media.
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lol
No wonder the Leafs are terrible.
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06-16-2015, 11:48 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Read an article about hypothetical trades based off "rumors" for the Bleacher report (first problem) and they suggested Bennett, Hiller, 15th pick for Kessel. Must have been written by a Leafs fan
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06-16-2015, 11:53 PM
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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I wouldn't do the 15th pick and Hiller, nevermind one of the Flames cornerstones of the future as well. If that's what some fans expect in return they should be ready to be disappointed.
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06-17-2015, 12:01 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Read an article about hypothetical trades based off "rumors" for the Bleacher report (first problem) and they suggested Bennett, Hiller, 15th pick for Kessel. Must have been written by a Leafs fan
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That was right after Dougie Hamilton for Boone Jenner. 
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06-17-2015, 12:07 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
That was right after Dougie Hamilton for Boone Jenner. |
Yeah just a brutal article in general. I couldn't believe that Flames deal though the best part is if Leaf fans think they are getting that they will be so disappointed
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06-17-2015, 12:14 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Read an article about hypothetical trades based off "rumors" for the Bleacher report (first problem) and they suggested Bennett, Hiller, 15th pick for Kessel. Must have been written by a Leafs fan
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Hahahahahahaha, barf. Deep breath... I can't believe someone is stupid enough to even write that never mind do it.
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06-17-2015, 12:15 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Yeah just a brutal article in general. I couldn't believe that Flames deal though the best part is if Leaf fans think they are getting that they will be so disappointed
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And Phaneuf will land them Ryan O'Reilly
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