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Old 12-07-2013, 01:46 AM   #41
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If someone has the video of Rob Kerr doing the Poe that would be great!
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Old 12-07-2013, 02:12 AM   #42
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I say when Monahan gets back, send Sven and Byron down and bring up Ferland for a taste.

Let Sven play down there until March-ish, then let him come up and carry the momentum up here that he'll likely have built up.

I'd prefer a stronger and better developed Sven playing full time NHL 1-2 years down the road, than a fragile and over scrutinized Sven beating his head against a rock constantly trying to make WHL plays work up here for the rest of the season +.

He's got the tools of a great player, I just don't think he knows exactly how to be successful here yet. He'll learn a lot down in Abby just like everyone else I'm sure is.
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Glad Russell's play is putting to rest more skeptics the more he plays .
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Butler is averaging 20 minutes a game...he must have pics of Hartley with a sheep.
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Glad Russell's play is putting to rest more skeptics the more he plays .
How many people picked him to lead the flames D in points? somebody find the thread!
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Glad Russell's play is putting to rest more skeptics the more he plays .
I hope he's given an extension before seasons end. One of Feasters better pickups.
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Old 12-07-2013, 03:38 AM   #47
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Yeah on that one goal he left his man early in the offensive zone and the Aves regained the puck, took control brought it the other way and scored. Sven looks a lot more involved but plays like he doesn't want to get hurt. Not sure if that's a confidence issue or what.
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How many people picked him to lead the flames D in points? somebody find the thread!
Come on, as pleasant a surprise as he has been, let's not ignore Gio's extended absence.

So tonight, Ramo made a brutal giveaway in what ended up being a 1 goal game. Shame

Assist notwithstanding, Cammalleri really seems to be fighting it
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:20 AM   #48
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“I just played it on the wrong side,” said Ramo. “I shouldn’t play it to the backhand. Just a mis-play, a misunderstanding. They got the momentum and they scored three goals with that momentum. So you know it was a big game-changing moment there. Those things happen in a hockey game.

“We just have to learn from it. All in all, we just needed to battle harder.”
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“It’s hockey,” Ramo said of surrendering three unanswered goals. “Mistakes cost goals. Overall, the game was all right. But those mistakes count and you have to avoid those.”
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“It’s a disappointing loss — we’re not happy,” said Flames captain Mark Giordano. “We didn’t really have a good second, the whole period. We weren’t moving like we were in the first. They just capitalized on some breakdowns. We’ve got to find a way, obviously, to not give … two goals in (54 seconds). We have to eliminate that.”
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“I felt if they didn’t get that one, we had a good chance of coming back … just disappointed right now,” said Giordano. “They’re good. Their forwards are really good. They make great plays around the net … but we can’t give them those empty-netters. They’re momentum-killers.”
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“Our starts have got to be better,” Stajan was saying before the game. “We know that in this dressing room. The whole city of Calgary knows that. So we’ve got to be better in the first 10 minutes … and play with the lead. We’re a better team when we play with the lead. And I think these guys have a good record when they get that first goal.”
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:50 AM   #49
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"You just keep me hangin on"
I played this tune tonight, ironically while glancing at a TV watching the Av's second goal.

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Old 12-07-2013, 05:14 AM   #50
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Well that's what happens when you're scared to make a tiny mistake since he'll be scratched the game after if he does.
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That's what happens when you're you're twenty-one years old, and have not yet played a full season at the NHL level.

The confidence will come, but his production seems to be close to on-track regardless. How many here expected that Baertschi would produce more than 1/2 point/game this season? He's fairly close to that right now. If the coaches' treatment of Baertschi is having a detrimental effect on his development, it is not obvious judging from the results. In short, I think he will be just fine.
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Personally I would be happy if it appeared that there was a development plan for Sven...Maybe there is a plan, but its not obvious to fans.
What the hell do you want? Should the Flames publish every detail about their development plans for players in order to placate the fans?

It is ridiculous to imagine that there is no plan. It is equally preposterous to expect that knowing the details about said plan will make any difference for either the player or the team.
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Why do sports journalists keep saying 3 unanswered , when the Flames scored in the third after the 3 goals . That drives me nuts.
Missed the game (work) but sounded entertaining
Now the BoA ! no getting embarrassed by the north wind (of hype) kick their arse !
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If someone has the video of Rob Kerr doing the Poe that would be great!
Sorry, I'm not into that... Not that there's anything wrong with it
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I liked what we saw of McDermid in his short debut. Hope he brings that every game. He'll be a total pain to play against. We need players that are like that.
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I'd prefer a stronger and better developed Sven playing full time NHL 1-2 years down the road, than a fragile and over scrutinized Sven beating his head against a rock constantly trying to make WHL plays work up here for the rest of the season +.
You'd rather he be playing in the AHL, where WHL plays still work more often than not?

Is there anything other than fan conjecture that points to Sven feeling like he's beating his head against a rock?
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re the MacDermid incident...

What I would like to see with respect to the instigator rule is that, if the initial play is a penalty, it shouldn't be an instigator. If not, it should.

For example, when Stempniak hit Ference clean, and Ference went after him, he should have gotten the instigator penalty. PP for the Flames.

With MAcDermid, because his play on Giguere was an infraction, McLeod should not have gotten an instigator - PP for the Avs.

I think one team should get the PP one way or the other. Defending a team-mate after an infraction? No foul. Going after a player when there wasn't an infraction? Foul.

Just my opinion.
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re the MacDermid incident...

What I would like to see with respect to the instigator rule is that, if the initial play is a penalty, it shouldn't be an instigator. If not, it should.

For example, when Stempniak hit Ference clean, and Ference went after him, he should have gotten the instigator penalty. PP for the Flames.

With MAcDermid, because his play on Giguere was an infraction, McLeod should not have gotten an instigator - PP for the Avs.

I think one team should get the PP one way or the other. Defending a team-mate after an infraction? No foul. Going after a player when there wasn't an infraction? Foul.

Just my opinion.
Stempniak's hit was boaderline dirty - Ference didn't touch/play the puck before getting buried.
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Entertaining game. Tough play by Ramo obviously - it is amazing how many times this year the goalies (all three of them) have just gift-wrapped goals to the other team. STAY IN YOUR FRICKEN NET!

After two really good games, I thought Stajan was weak tonight.

Another good game by Backlund.

Giordano, Russell and Brodie are awesome. Add in Smid who does what he does, and you have 4 decent defenders. If they can just get one more solid defenseman, so that Wideman can play an offensive d-man, PP specialist role, they would actually have a pretty solid D core.

Put me in the camp that liked MacDermid - he brings a combination of energy and physicality that I want to see from a 4th liner. Him, Bouma and maybe Reinhart or Knight would be a great 4th line, though I think Knight has more 3rd line potential in him.
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Stempniak's hit was boaderline dirty - Ference didn't touch/play the puck before getting buried.
You missed the point of the post - I am not going to debate whether it was or wasn't. What I am saying is the rule needs to be clearer. The refs didn't call a penalty, therefore instigator.

The problem right now is perfectly illustrated by your reply: the players are being refs because the calls are confusing. I am proposing a more cut and dry system.
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Stempniak's hit was boaderline dirty - Ference didn't touch/play the puck before getting buried.
It wasn't remotely close to dirty.

Pathetic if Oiler fans try to paint it that way.

The puck is right there and guys get hit like that every game.

It isn't "borderline dirty" just because little baby Ference doesn't like to get hit.
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