Feaster: "I really feel Jarome will finish his career here in Calgary"

[Lt.Spears]

I think what some of us are doing is looking at this like assets. The fanbase right now is split between those that see Iginla for the things he has done, his personality, his heart and passion and everything he has done for the team. And group that sees him as an asset in a failing organization. Its easy to say that trading Iginla is the best choice.. Because if you take the emotions out of it, it is the best move. its just hard as fans to accept this. The more we lose however the easier it becomes.

[Samiz]

I'm not close to being old enough for when Nieuwendyk was traded for Iggy. But would you folks who were around back then say that it is a similar situation to this? What was the reaction then?

[CaptainCrunch]

A helluva a lot of rage.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Samiz

I'm not close to being old enough for when Nieuwendyk was traded for Iggy. But would you folks who were around back then say that it is a similar situation to this? What was the reaction then?

I was pissed. Nieuwendyk was my favourite player. It worked out well though. I have been a fan since the days of the corral and seen all my favourite flames over the years leave, you get over it faster than you think.

[Mightyfire89]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I was pissed. Nieuwendyk was my favourite player. It worked out well though. I have been a fan since the days of the corral and seen all my favourite flames over the years leave, you get over it faster than you think.

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

A helluva a lot of rage.

Joey joe joe junior Shabadoo was my favorite Flame at the time as well, but I didn't have a lot of anger. The much younger version of myself just thought, well, if he doesn't want to be here, let him go (for a decent return). At one point, I actually hoped for Kirk Muller (who was pulling a similar stunt with the Islanders at the time if I recall correctly)...*Violent Shudder at the thought.

I had a strange sort of zen approach to the whole thing (as opposed to the Gilmour fiasco which sent me into a depression that cast a dark pall upon everything I did for about two years).

[I am the Liquor]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I was pissed. Nieuwendyk was my favourite player. It worked out well though. I have been a fan since the days of the corral and seen all my favourite flames over the years leave, you get over it faster than you think.

Unless Iginla never panned out. Which is always possible. You never really get over those deals. For instance we got Ryan O'Marra, Robert Nilsson and Alex Plante from the original Smyth deal. Two minor leaguers that are longshots at best for nhl careers and one guy whom the organization walked away from and is now toiling in the KHL.

Plante came in the form of a first round pick and the other two were "quality" prospects.

Deals where you score an Iginla for a Nieuwendyk would probably be fairly rare.

[robertsfan]

Originally Posted by Samiz

I'm not close to being old enough for when Nieuwendyk was traded for Iggy. But would you folks who were around back then say that it is a similar situation to this? What was the reaction then?

Different situation. Nieuwendyk was holding out and the Flames were reluctant to re-sign him to what he wanted, partially due to his wonky back that kept him out of the first two playoff games against San jose the season before.

I think that Fleury's contract was up as well, and the Flames had to choose.

The reaction at the time was doom and gloom. The Flames were awful in October of the 95-96 season, not winning a game until Halloween I think. The trade happened in December. Corey Millen also came to Calgary in that deal and actually played well.

At least that's how I remember it.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by I am the Liquor

Unless Iginla never panned out. Which is always possible. You never really get over those deals. For instance we got Ryan O'Marra, Robert Nilsson and Alex Plante from the original Smyth deal. Two minor leaguers that are longshots at best for nhl careers and one guy whom the organization walked away from and is now toiling in the KHL.

That's why you don't deal Iginla for a few prospects, you deal Iginla+ for a bluechip prospect. Thats why I'm so pissed that Feaster used Regehr as a chip to dump salary, WTF... Regehr should have been used to get a blue chipper, not a average defenseman, tier 2 prospect (no offense to Byron) and a salary dump.

[Mightyfire89]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

That's why you don't deal Iginla for a few prospects, you deal Iginla+ for a bluechip prospect. Thats why I'm so pissed that Feaster used Regehr as a chip to dump salary, WTF... Regehr should have been used to get a blue chipper, not a average defenseman, tier 2 prospect (no offense to Byron) and a salary dump.

Maybe nobody offered a blue chipper for Regehr?

[daveinspruce]

Man some of you guys a FUNNY and CLUELESS. Really I can't understand for the life of me WHY the Flames have to hold on to Iggy till he retires! Why because he has the most points in franchise history? Well if that's the case we should of kept Kent Nilson,Joe Newindyk,Al McInnis,Theo Fleury all till they retired...is it because Iggy has a great smile? You do realize that Conroy taught him that trick right?
The bottom line is this....Iggy is OLD!!!! There it is...He makes 7.5 MILLION a season,he has what 6 -7 goals, is third worst in the league in +\-...And every one knows we have to go thru a rebuild and if we do it right it won't be all that bad. If we can get 2-3 first rounders,2-3 second rounders,sighn some real talent come July 1st. We will be back baby!!
But if Feaster screws this up and holds on to Iggy because of some sick misplaced loyalty then we are screwed for years and years and years..
I've said it before and I'll say it again.... I'm a FAN of the TEAM called THE CALGARY FLAMES.....NOT the TEAM called THE CALGARY IGGY'S....

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Krack Korn

Maybe nobody offered a blue chipper for Regehr?

Yup. I think the Regehr saga is a case where we as fans didn't understand the value he had out there. People were expecting the Sabres to cough up a kid like Luke Adam. It simply wasn't going to happen. And I count myself as those who had a poor gauge of #28's value on the trade market.

[trackercowe]

I am on board with trading Iginla if the Flames can get a kings ransom out of him. I would rather see him win the cup in Detroit, LA, or Philly than not at all.

I doubt any Flames fan will feel great about it, but the Flames have one of the worst pool of prospects in the league, and really need to do whatever it takes to improve on what they currently have in their system.

While our prospect base is slowly improving, outside of possibly Bartschi we have no bonafide prospects with first line potential. This has been the same problem the Flames have had for years; tons of second/third liners, but nothing outside of Iginla (and the occasional Cammalleri) as true first liners.

Horak, Byron, Nemisz and probably Backlund all may end up as full time NHLers, but it's unlikely they will be anything more than second or third liners.

Of course trading Iginla might not end up being a successful move either (see the Kovalchuk trade), but it may be the only route to take that could improve the team in 3-4 years, rather than 6-7 if we keep Iggy.

[minnow]

Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/Flames+blow+late+lead+loss+Blue+Jackets/5799011/story.html#ixzz1fMPTOyip

[I am the Liquor]

Originally Posted by daveinspruce

Iggy is OLD!!!! There it is...He makes 7.5 MILLION a season,he has what 6 -7 goals, is third worst in the league in +\-

And what kind of a return are you expecting for that package?

Do you think its going to be something significant?

If you are looking for a "blue chip" prospect as the center piece in an Iginla deal, how do you make it work from a cap perspective?

Are there teams out there willing to swallow Iggy's cap?

I dont think so. You would have to take some (significant) salary back. Im not sure an Iginla deal would be all that lucrative tbh.

Look at what Phaneuf got for a return for example.

[Mightyfire89]

You ARE the liquor

[VladtheImpaler]

I don't understand all this talk of "Iginla deserves X" or "Iginla has earned the right to X". Fata that. It's not like he's played for pork & beans while sleeping at the Mustard Seed. He's been well and appropriately compensated, and we don't owe him anything. I don't give a fata about any particular player - I just care about the Flames winning the Cup. We won't win one with Iginla - that ship has sailed. In fact if you believe Playfair and Warrener (and I do), Iginla has been more of a hindrance than help since Darryl left the bench. This team has been allowed to become the Calgary Iginlas - it's time the crest on the front took priority over the name on the back again.

[Mightyfire89]

I don't disagree Vlad.

[Mightyfire89]

With anything you said.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by I am the Liquor

If you are looking for a "blue chip" prospect as the center piece in an Iginla deal, how do you make it work from a cap perspective?

Are there teams out there willing to swallow Iggy's cap?

I don't want to see Iggy go but if he does .... yes and yes.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

This team has been allowed to become the Calgary Iginlas -

So true. I am of the same opinion, I don't get why Iggy is "owed" anything, what is this obsession from Feaster and company insisting that Iginla will be a Flame for life, damn the torpedoes?