11-04-2025, 10:08 PM
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Is it just me or are there more extra time games than ever before?
I brought this up with friend this weekend that I feel the amount of games going to OT or SOs is way up! To that point, 5/6 games that are past the 3rd period tonight have gone to extra time.
Did some quick maths and found that the extra time rate for each season since COVID has been as follows:
21/22 - 22%
22/23 - 23% (Year Flames almost broke the record with 17 loser points)
23/24 - 21%
24/25 - 21%
Then this year we are currently clicking along at a very healthy 29%!
My two working theories are that this is due to a strategy that securing a point is better than an loss so if its tied at any point in the 3rd that teams sit back and just run out time. Or is this due to teams being more equal skill wise?
Would be interested in others thoughts on the matter. I'm probably out to lunch though.
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11-04-2025, 11:12 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
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I was just looking at the standings and thinking how many loser points there were in the Western Conference.
God I hate loser points.
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11-04-2025, 11:39 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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shhhhh proline ties 
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11-04-2025, 11:39 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Interesting...if true... 
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11-05-2025, 12:52 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Game management by refs?
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11-05-2025, 07:06 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
shhhhh proline ties |
Here in BC, the rules for SportsAction/Proline hockey has changed. A tie was when the game headed to the shootout. Now, it is considered a tie after 60 minutes.
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11-05-2025, 07:11 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FleeceGang
My two working theories are that this is due to a strategy that securing a point is better than an loss so if its tied at any point in the 3rd that teams sit back and just run out time. Or is this due to teams being more equal skill wise?
Would be interested in others thoughts on the matter. I'm probably out to lunch though.
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Early in the season and for the 1st half, most teams will lock it down in the 3rd period to get the single point. For the second half of the season, teams will notice that they need regulation wins for tie breakers. I think more games will end in reg time later on.
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11-05-2025, 01:28 PM
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That's why the 3-2-1 point system should be implemented ASAP
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11-05-2025, 02:09 PM
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Or just remove the loser point...its was put in so teams didn't sit back for ties but now ties don't exist...teams sit back in the third instead.
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11-05-2025, 03:26 PM
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There is no such thing as a loser point. There is a bonus point, not a loser point.
Two points are awarded at the end of every single regulation game. It does not matter what happens in OT and/or the SO for the two points. There is a bonus point awarded to the OT or SO winner. The team that only gets one point doesn't get it because they lost. They get it, just like the other team, for finishing the regulation three periods tied. Given that each game gets two points, but some get an extra point, it's literally a bonus point.
I will kill you on this hill. I used to say I'd die on this hill, but saying I will kill you on it is way more aggressive and appropriate.
I would prefer a 3-2-1-0 point distribution, so that every game is awarded the same number of points and there are no bonus points awarded.
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11-05-2025, 03:45 PM
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Location: NC
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Welcome to the fun times of parity. Heavily emphasized for: 1) revenue purposes (your team is still in it), and 2) sports betting purposes. It’s happening everywhere.
Soon, watch us go the nba route and have 10 teams make playoffs, with 7-10 being WC seeds. It’ll be stupidly and pathetic, but it’s playoff revenue that all are after.
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11-05-2025, 04:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by squiggs96
There is no such thing as a loser point. There is a bonus point, not a loser point.
Two points are awarded at the end of every single regulation game. It does not matter what happens in OT and/or the SO for the two points. There is a bonus point awarded to the OT or SO winner. The team that only gets one point doesn't get it because they lost. They get it, just like the other team, for finishing the regulation three periods tied. Given that each game gets two points, but some get an extra point, it's literally a bonus point.
I will kill you on this hill. I used to say I'd die on this hill, but saying I will kill you on it is way more aggressive and appropriate.
I would prefer a 3-2-1-0 point distribution, so that every game is awarded the same number of points and there are no bonus points awarded.
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lol a "bonus point" given to the team that loses...call it what you like
some games being worth more than others is crazy to me.
"they won't change it, parity" I get it, doesn't mean I have to like it
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11-05-2025, 05:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
lol a "bonus point" given to the team that loses...call it what you like
some games being worth more than others is crazy to me.
"they won't change it, parity" I get it, doesn't mean I have to like it
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No, the bonus point is given to the team that wins. Both teams earned a point by being tied through 60 minutes.
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11-05-2025, 06:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsawwassen
Early in the season and for the 1st half, most teams will lock it down in the 3rd period to get the single point. For the second half of the season, teams will notice that they need regulation wins for tie breakers. I think more games will end in reg time later on.
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This makes sense. I guess time will tell if the trend continues or if teams start to win in regulation.
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11-05-2025, 06:59 PM
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All I can get
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Go back to allowing ties, but with zero points for both teams.
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11-15-2025, 09:13 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: New York, NY
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All 4 games last night OT or SO…even the one in Sweden - lol
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11-15-2025, 09:31 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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All the games last night went to OT.
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11-15-2025, 09:41 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
No, the bonus point is given to the team that wins. Both teams earned a point by being tied through 60 minutes.
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The team that wins used to get 2 points and the loser got zero...even in OT. You can lose game 7 in triple ot and your season is done but we cant have zero points for an OT loss for some reason.
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11-15-2025, 09:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
The team that wins used to get 2 points and the loser got zero...even in OT. You can lose game 7 in triple ot and your season is done but we cant have zero points for an OT loss for some reason.
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It's because during the season the winner is determined by 3v3 and then a shootout.
If you want to give the loser 0 points during the season, you'd need to change it to full OT 5v5.
I agree that it's best to have a 3-2-1-0 system. But I prefer the extra point for a "tie" vs 0 points for a 3v3 or SO loss.
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11-15-2025, 10:01 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Getting 0 points for losing 3v3 or a shootout would be the worst outcome, puts way too much value on what are gimmicks.
If you want a 2-0 system then have ongoing OT.
If you need to have 3v3 or SO for TV purposes then it should be 3-2-1.
Really it isn't that hard, the answer has been 3-2-1 for 10 years now but the NHL refuses to change that
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