Thanks for the advice everyone. I've learned a lot from this thread.
I've learned that when you see something you like, go in and offer them 50% or lower even, of the asking price. Apparently, from what I've learned here, this is quite acceptable.
If the seller gets indignant and feels you are wasting his time by making such an insulting offer, look astonished and tell him to chill as this is all part of the negotiating process and you really didn't mean it. You were just trying to gauge how desperate he is and trying to figure out how badly you can screw him over on the price, and he shouldn't take offense as it was nothing personal.
Also I've learned that there is no such thing as fair market value for an item. Fair market value is the lowest price possible that you can talk the seller into selling the item to you. Fairness is no longer a factor in the equation in this day and age. As long as I'm happy thats all that matters. Who cares if the seller later feels he got cheated. This is a dog eat dog world.
Thanks for the advice everyone. I've learned a lot from this thread.
I've learned that when you see something you like, go in and offer them 50% or lower even, of the asking price. Apparently, from what I've learned here, this is quite acceptable.
If the seller gets indignant and feels you are wasting his time by making such an insulting offer, look astonished and tell him to chill as this is all part of the negotiating process and you really didn't mean it. You were just trying to gauge how desperate he is and trying to figure out how badly you can screw him over on the price, and he shouldn't take offense as it was nothing personal.
Also I've learned that there is no such thing as fair market value for an item. Fair market value is the lowest price possible that you can talk the seller into selling the item to you. Fairness is no longer a factor in the equation in this day and age. As long as I'm happy thats all that matters. Who cares if the seller later feels he got cheated. This is a dog eat dog world.
Thanks for the advice everyone. I've learned a lot from this thread.
I've learned that when you see something you like, go in and offer them 50% or lower even, of the asking price. Apparently, from what I've learned here, this is quite acceptable.
If the seller gets indignant and feels you are wasting his time by making such an insulting offer, look astonished and tell him to chill as this is all part of the negotiating process and you really didn't mean it. You were just trying to gauge how desperate he is and trying to figure out how badly you can screw him over on the price, and he shouldn't take offense as it was nothing personal.
Also I've learned that there is no such thing as fair market value for an item. Fair market value is the lowest price possible that you can talk the seller into selling the item to you. Fairness is no longer a factor in the equation in this day and age. As long as I'm happy thats all that matters. Who cares if the seller later feels he got cheated. This is a dog eat dog world.
Thank you everybody. You've opened my eyes.
Why would a seller ever feel cheated? The seller gets to decide when the item leaves his hands, and at what price. If the seller later feels cheated by what he got for his item than the seller cheated himself.
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Thanks for the advice everyone. I've learned a lot from this thread.
I've learned that when you see something you like, go in and offer them 50% or lower even, of the asking price. Apparently, from what I've learned here, this is quite acceptable.
If the seller gets indignant and feels you are wasting his time by making such an insulting offer, look astonished and tell him to chill as this is all part of the negotiating process and you really didn't mean it. You were just trying to gauge how desperate he is and trying to figure out how badly you can screw him over on the price, and he shouldn't take offense as it was nothing personal.
Also I've learned that there is no such thing as fair market value for an item. Fair market value is the lowest price possible that you can talk the seller into selling the item to you. Fairness is no longer a factor in the equation in this day and age. As long as I'm happy thats all that matters. Who cares if the seller later feels he got cheated. This is a dog eat dog world.
Thank you everybody. You've opened my eyes.
I'll pay you to be the new GM/President of the Oilers with that mentalitiy....
Why would a seller ever feel cheated? The seller gets to decide when the item leaves his hands, and at what price. If the seller later feels cheated by what he got for his item than the seller cheated himself.
Forget it. You have your opinion and I have mine. Lets leave it at that. I'm done with this thread.
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Thanks for the advice everyone. I've learned a lot from this thread.
I've learned that when you see something you like, go in and offer them 50% or lower even, of the asking price. Apparently, from what I've learned here, this is quite acceptable.
If the seller gets indignant and feels you are wasting his time by making such an insulting offer, look astonished and tell him to chill as this is all part of the negotiating process and you really didn't mean it. You were just trying to gauge how desperate he is and trying to figure out how badly you can screw him over on the price, and he shouldn't take offense as it was nothing personal.
Also I've learned that there is no such thing as fair market value for an item. Fair market value is the lowest price possible that you can talk the seller into selling the item to you. Fairness is no longer a factor in the equation in this day and age. As long as I'm happy thats all that matters. Who cares if the seller later feels he got cheated. This is a dog eat dog world.
Thank you everybody. You've opened my eyes.
Wow! Can't stand the fact that someone has a different opinion than you?
As for the sarcasm...... Grow up!
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Thanks for the advice everyone. I've learned a lot from this thread.
I've learned that when you see something you like, go in and offer them 50% or lower even, of the asking price. Apparently, from what I've learned here, this is quite acceptable.
If the seller gets indignant and feels you are wasting his time by making such an insulting offer, look astonished and tell him to chill as this is all part of the negotiating process and you really didn't mean it. You were just trying to gauge how desperate he is and trying to figure out how badly you can screw him over on the price, and he shouldn't take offense as it was nothing personal.
Also I've learned that there is no such thing as fair market value for an item. Fair market value is the lowest price possible that you can talk the seller into selling the item to you. Fairness is no longer a factor in the equation in this day and age. As long as I'm happy thats all that matters. Who cares if the seller later feels he got cheated. This is a dog eat dog world.
Thank you everybody. You've opened my eyes.
Just because the seller doesn't get what he wants doesn't make it unfair.
I'm sure people who made fistsfull of money during the housing boom aren't feeling bad because they ripped off people who are now underwater in their equity position.
When someone lowballs me with an "insulting offer", I decide to take it extremely seriously. Sometimes I call and cry to my ex-girlfriend while her boyfriend is in the room with her. Someone lowballing me with an insulting offer is the most important thing in my life and I will cut myself if the offer is low enough. Children dying in Africa means NOTHING to me, when a random faceless, most likely joking person, insults me like that. Racism is nothing to me when it comes to this issue.
I realize that I'm 10 pages late to the party.... but a friend of mine is a professional haggler. He's from Somalia where even pre civil war, haggling was everyday life. Everything was a negotiation. I've seen him in action.
"Well, you have to understand, I have 4 children.... and we have only one income... and the bills are so hard to pay. We really, really need this, but I can only spare $50. I know the price you are asking is almost twice that, but I can see just by looking at it that it has been collecting dust. So this works out for both of us. Actually, it works out two ways for you.... you get rid of this thing and free up space for other stuff, AND get $50 out of it."
And that was at a Canadian Tire.
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