[Trade] Kings acquire PLD (8x$8.5 mil) for Vilardi, Iafallo, Kupari, and 2nd

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Dissentowner man here's another guarantee down the drain! Pld not in Montreal for the next decade.

I must have missed this, what are you referring to?

[Hockey_Ninja]

Lindy’s definitely not signing for anything less than 9 now

[Monahammer]

Wow buying out wheeler would be interesting.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Wow buying out wheeler would be interesting.

Who was the last former captain to get bought out?

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

3 years difference in age.

Which isn’t very much at all. Lindholm is just the better player.

[bax]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Which isn’t very much at all. Lindholm is just the better player.

Agreed Lindholm is better, but committing 8.5 million to ages 26-33 is definitely way way way more appealing than doing it for ages 30-38.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Well if he’s worth 8.5 then Lindholm definitely is.

I see it a bit differently. Younger player, still untapped upside, but has the size and tenacity to be a beast in the playoffs too.

Given age and his ability to influence the game in other ways, I’d put more value in PLD than Lindholm.

[Party Elephant]

Originally Posted by bax

Agreed Lindholm is better, but committing 8.5 million to ages 26-33 is definitely way way way more appealing than doing it for ages 30-38.

But LA is gambling on Dubois being more productive than he's ever been to justify that salary. His career high season was 63 points, and he's a .36 PPG player in six full seasons. Lindholm's "down year" this year still beat Dubois' career high, and Lindholm's a .61 PPG over his career.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by TOfan

If PLD signs an extension with LA, that leaves the Canadiens looking for their local Quebec born superstar……

(Half joking)

Yeah, don't ever believe that french players are waiting to go to Montreal. First Huberdeau and now Dubois. They were suppose to sign UFA for Montreal and play together Jult 1, 2023.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Party Elephant

But LA is gambling on Dubois being more productive than he's ever been to justify that salary. His career high season was 63 points, and he's a .36 PPG player in six full seasons. Lindholm's "down year" this year still beat Dubois' career high, and Lindholm's a .61 PPG over his career.

Dubois had one less point than Lindholm while playing 7 games less this past season. He also brings a power forward style game that Lindholm doesn’t.

The salary cap is going up in the coming years. Dubois won’t need to be more productive to justify 8.5.

Although Lindholm is better defensively, 3.5 years age difference is too big for me. If it was one or the other I would go with PLD.

[Ashasx]

For impact over the next 3 years, I would take Lindholm, but I would rather sign PLD to this contract than Lindholm.

(given the Flames' position, I would rather sign neither)

Lindholm does have the benefit of having a very small cap hit this season, and will go up only after the NHL salary cap goes up by 5+ million.

[sureLoss]

Insiders say the trade is done pending trade call with NHL

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Three 1B centers have been signed to 8 x 8.5 in the last 4 months

Elias should expect no more or less at the same term.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Three 1B centers have been signed to 8 x 8.5 in the last 4 months

Elias should expect no more or less at the same term.

What he should expect and what he wants may be two different things entirely.

He really holds the cards, as his agreement or reluctance to accept a deal pre-UFA can make a huge difference to both the Flames and a team trading for him. It puts huge pressure on either team to blink and overpay him.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by bax

Agreed Lindholm is better, but committing 8.5 million to ages 26-33 is definitely way way way more appealing than doing it for ages 30-38.

I think as the years go by this contract won't be bad when he's in his 30's assuming salary cap movement in the coming years. I just don't like the player at all and don't think he's the type of guy you bring in if you are trying to win a cup.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

What he should expect and what he wants may be two different things entirely.

He really holds the cards, as his agreement or reluctance to accept a deal pre-UFA can make a huge difference to both the Flames and a team trading for him. It puts huge pressure on either team to blink and overpay him.

He only holds the cards that Conroy is willing to give him. He has no trade protection, Conroy could send him to Arizona for a row of seats.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by bax

Agreed Lindholm is better, but committing 8.5 million to ages 26-33 is definitely way way way more appealing than doing it for ages 30-38.

29-37. He’ll be 37 when his contract is up.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

29-37. He’ll be 37 when his contract is up.

Which is 55 in regular years.

[bax]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

29-37. He’ll be 37 when his contract is up.

My mistake. Still doesn’t make a difference though

[Locke]

Originally Posted by bax

My mistake. Still doesn’t make a difference though

No, it doesnt. You dont want a 37-year-old making $8.5+ on your roster.

Its bad enough with Huberdeau and Kadri, and I'm okay with Weegar.