[PGT] Vegas 5, Oilers 2 - Oilers eliminated in 6 games

[sketchyt]

I just rewatched the Pietrangelo slash and how the Oilers reacted. This was basically the turning point of the series:

• McDavid "fighting" Pietrangelo but doesn't bother taking off his gloves (read: all bark, no bite). Instead, goes with an Alex Semin-like bongo drum impression.
• Draisaitl just crying and skating AWAY from Pietrangelo.
• No one else on the team stepping up to help McDavid.
• Pietrangelo actually DOES get suspended. Oilers choke away the opportunity to win that game without Vegas' best dman (arguably).

There are leaders who expect to win (i.e. McKinnon, Crosby, Stamkos, etc...). Then there are "leaders" who feel entitled to win (see: handshake line).

[GhostCookie]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The Oilers are going to have a problem THIS off-season with Bouchard needing a new contract.

I imagine he gets at least 6 Bouch Bombs

Jesus they also have Neal's buyout for two more seasons at $2 million per

I think that's exactly it. He can surely bank on being able to get 2-3 on the market, more if anyone outside of greaserville became enamored with the bouche bomb.

Quick glance at CF shows a little under 6 in space, plus they would send one of their D back down, with 7 contracts to sign, and all of those LTIR contracts expiring, which means no easy LTIR space to be had. On top of the bouche, they will have Kostin costin money with a raise as well as Mcleod. Though with Arb, it's likely they won't see too much of a raise, but basically, to run it back with the same roster they would need to sign 3 RFA's and 4 UFA's for what they were already paying them, with about a million in wiggle room total to hand out extra money.

Plus, they have to be careful about how much money they give out over the next couple of years, because I don't see pissy taking less than 15 to re-sign, and they don't have enough big contracts coming off the books to eat the increase without signing lesser players. And then they have to do the same dance again the following year for Mavi's increase of several million to stick around.

[GioforPM]

Evander Kane had 5 points in the POs - compared to like 11 for Hyman, who's in a similar spot in the roster. His assist in game 6 was his first point in the series (and first since game 5 versus LA). -4 for the series. 48 pms in 6 games.

I like it.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Evander Kane had 5 points in the POs - compared to like 11 for Hyman, who's in a similar spot in the roster. His assist in game 6 was his first point in the series (and first since game 5 versus LA). -4 for the series. 48 pms in 6 games.

I like it.

Yeah. Timing is about right for him to have run his course. I also like

[Paulie Walnuts]

Its about that time for Kane to put his stamp in that locker room and tear it apart.

[CSharp]

Oilers just became the new Winnipeg Jets!

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Its about that time for Kane to put his stamp in that locker room and tear it apart.

Watch out trackpants in the shower!

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by sketchyt

I just rewatched the Pietrangelo slash and how the Oilers reacted. This was basically the turning point of the series:

• McDavid "fighting" Pietrangelo but doesn't bother taking off his gloves (read: all bite, no bark). Instead, goes with an Alex Semin-like bongo drum impression.
• Draisaitl just crying and skating AWAY from Pietrangelo.
• No one else on the team stepping up to help McDavid.
• Pietrangelo actually DOES get suspended. Oilers choke away the opportunity to win that game without Vegas' best dman (arguably).

There are leaders who expect to win (i.e. McKinnon, Crosby, Stamkos, etc...). Then there are "leaders" who feel entitled to win (see: handshake line).

I agree with this. The Oilers are not a group that is deep enough (obviously) but they could overcome that with the skill they have IF they were willing to work hard enough and sacrifice.

I've never seen anything close to that out of this group to the point where once guys like McDavid and Drysaddle finally do make a defensive play and everyone goes nuts....this is certainly when it becomes even more telling that they are nowhere near the all around players that Crosby, McKinnon and even Ovechkin turned into in order to win the cup.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

I agree with this. The Oilers are not a group that is deep enough (obviously) but they could overcome that with the skill they have IF they were willing to work hard enough and sacrifice.

I've never seen anything close to that out of this group to the point where once guys like McDavid and Drysaddle finally do make a defensive play and everyone goes nuts....this is certainly when it becomes even more telling that they are nowhere near the all around players that Crosby, McKinnon and even Ovechkin turned into in order to win the cup.

I have no idea exactly how deep they are really. We get on Sutter for not playing his talent enough but there it's the opposite - how good are Mcleod and Kostin if given decent ice time? Kostin got under 4 minutes the last two games.
They were like .4 ppg as it is. Could you use Yamamoto or Foegele better?

[SuperMatt18]

I'm starting to wonder how much of it is the coach deciding to overplay 97 and 29, and how much is 97 and 29 demanding they play that much.

The best way to put up individual numbers is to play that much.

[indes]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I'm starting to wonder how much of it is the coach deciding to overplay 97 and 29, and how much is 97 and 29 demanding they play that much.

The best way to put up individual numbers is to play that much.

It has to be the wonder muppets. No coach, even Woody is dumb enough to think that those two can play through an entire playoffs at almost half the game.

Nobody could do it. Unless you coast 25% of the time. I wonder who pushes play more, Draisaitl dogging it back covering no one or a fully charged Kostin? It's also absolutely insane that they are on the PK as well.

[blankall]

The Oilers were just a much worse 5v5 team. They are also going to get less PPs, when you have guys like E. Kane going around cheap shotting the other team. It was just a bad game plan. Rely on PPs, but also have players on your team that are going to turn the refs against you.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by indes

It has to be the wonder muppets. No coach, even Woody is dumb enough to think that those two can play through an entire playoffs at almost half the game.

Nobody could do it. Unless you coast 25% of the time. I wonder who pushes play more, Draisaitl dogging it back covering no one or a fully charged Kostin? It's also absolutely insane that they are on the PK as well.

McDavid is on PK purely to try and get a breakaway (like game 4). They put him out there with 20 seconds left against the other team's second unit so he can (a) try and cheat a shortie and (b) be out there when the PK ends.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I'm starting to wonder how much of it is the coach deciding to overplay 97 and 29, and how much is 97 and 29 demanding they play that much.

The best way to put up individual numbers is to play that much.

My guess is they demanded a coach who would let them do whatever they wanted and that's why they hired the ventriloquist's dummy.

[indes]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

McDavid is on PK purely to try and get a breakaway (like game 4). They put him out there with 20 seconds left against the other team's second unit so he can (a) try and cheat a shortie and (b) be out there when the PK ends.

I get it. I just don't think the pros outweigh the cons when you're up at 26mins a game then get hemmed in burning energy you don't have. They had Draisaitl out on the PK for a 4 on 3. 98% he just gasses himself playing the top of the triangle, 2% chance he gets a break. Having them skip the PK seems like an obvious way to get them some rest to actually backcheck and force plays 5v5.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by CFO

One thing I noticed - Bouchard is a horrible D on the defensive side. Guy is a major liability (regardless of offensive capabilities).

Bouchard played 31 minutes last night, had 40 points in the regular season and 17 playoff points(one behind pissy).

We are talking a total stud here, he's got to be worth at least Nurse's $9.25m

There is a problem though, the Oilers only have about $8m in cap space with only 8 forwards signed

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I'm starting to wonder how much of it is the coach deciding to overplay 97 and 29, and how much is 97 and 29 demanding they play that much.

The best way to put up individual numbers is to play that much.

I'd say we shouldn't be overthinking it. Both the coach and those two are likely equally motivated to overuse / overplay them. The flaw with the Oilers, is they aren't balanced. They will live and die by those two, and the coach, and the players really have no option but to double down 97 and 29's ice time and see what happens.

[Dion]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1658177928797241344

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Dion

https://twitter.com/user/status/1658177928797241344

Man Crysaddle might just be a low IQ player on the defensive end those are simple plays he turns into glaring errors.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

Another year of McLottery wasted. Oiler fans in tears. Love to see it.

Haha yessir, only 3 years left! Time flies...only the Oilers could waste arguably the best talent this century (along with another elite talent) for 8 years and go nowhere with it. You love to see it...