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Old 12-29-2011, 04:06 PM   #161
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More than Charlie Sheen?
There would apparently be a genuine competition, believe it or not.

Berlusconi's wife just kept looking the other way.

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Didn't we all say that?
While true, and most thinking it, Berlusconi, I believe, was the only significant western leader to actually voice it for public consumption, something like October 4, less than a month after the 9/11 attacks.

He caught a lot of flak over it but basically shrugged his shoulders and said, "Hey, we're all thinking it!!!"

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Old 12-30-2011, 02:13 AM   #162
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Eric Lafforgue: "The highways in North Korea are huge and carless. Planes could land there. You can even see kids playing in the middle of the road. Security is a major problem because children and old people are not used to seeing cars, so they cross over the roads at any time, without watching out for oncoming traffic. The only cars you can see sometimes on highways are military ones, and most of them are stopped by the side of road, broken down. Or you can also see brand new Mercedes cars belonging to the North Korean officials passing by at very high speeds
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Old 12-30-2011, 02:27 AM   #163
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North Korean farmers work in a field along a highway outside the eastern coastal city of Wonsan, North Korea.
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/201..._part_iii.html

Welcome back to the middle ages. Probably took those 6 , and probably more, the whole day to complete that small field. Here in Japan, they two 60 year-old farmers would ave had it finished and re-plowed by the afternoon.
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:16 AM   #164
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North Korea altered pictures of Kim Jong Il funeral...

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/12...oshop-funeral/
NK fascinates me too. I would love to go there on a holiday just to see it. My wife tells me I couldn't keep my mouth shut long enough to get out of their though.
But I am suprised a major paper would bother with this story it just seems so...I don't know what to call it but unimportant and perhaps predictable.

All I know is that when the curtain is raised and we all see what crimes against humanity has gone on there we as people will be ashamed of ourselves and I think China will have a national disgrace on it's hands.
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:06 AM   #165
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Apparently NK is home to a giant soldier. Though how he got so tall with all the undernourishment rampant in NK is beyond me
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-23668476/
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:28 AM   #166
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Sounds like the new leader is the same as the old leader:

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PYONGYANG, North Korea (AP) — North Korea warned the world Friday there would be no softening of its position toward South Korea's government after Kim Jong Il's death as Pyongyang strengthened his son and heir's authority with a new title: Great Leader.
North Korea's powerful National Defense Commission said the country would never deal with South Korean President Lee Myung-bak, a conservative who stopped a no-strings-attached aid policy toward the North in 2008.
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:40 AM   #167
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Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss



People can't seriously think that there will be any kind of reform to the current system, or that the new kid will somehow moderate the thing.

He's running two things right now, nothing and d1ck, what we're going to see is a power struggle behind the king as Intelligence and the Military and the political arm of the party all fight for a greater influence and to overwhelm the "Great Leader"

If he's smart enough, ruthless enought and tough enough, he might gain control over the system and use the upcoming in fighting to his advantage, but it will be years before he asserts the type of power that his father and grandfather had over the country, and by the time he does he'll be so spoiled by the advantages of his position, and so beholden to a powerfull few that he won't want to change anything.

Trust me kids, you basically have a trust fund baby being made CEO of a failing company.
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Apparently NK is home to a giant soldier. Though how he got so tall with all the undernourishment rampant in NK is beyond me
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-23668476/
One benefit of having 7 billion people on the planet is the comfort we can all feel knowing there is at least one amongst us who passes their time with a magnifying glass scrutinizing pictures showing the backs of the heads of soldiers standing in review.

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How do we know he wasn't a 4'6" solidier sitting on the shoulders of a 3'3" soldiers so that they could fork the rock and roll devil symbol at the passing limos.
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I guess the good part of being in NK is they would never have heard of Twilight or Beiber.
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:05 AM   #171
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I guess the good part of being in NK is they would never have heard of Twilight or Beiber.
who needs Twilight when you have Pulgasari



Attendance is mandatory comrade

Who needs Beibs when you have this



You will cheer and throw your workers brand panties on stage comrade
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:11 AM   #172
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Personally I find it insanely fascinating. In an age where I can hop on google maps and check out what almost anyone's street looks like, the fact there is a country that very few outsiders have actually seen besides the parts dressed up to show visitors is such a strange concept. I love all of the posts of NK photos.
There are many countries we know nothing about.

Swaziland, Rwanda, Bhutan, Laos, Guatemala etc...
These countries don't get attention because they don't have nukes?
North Korea is achieving their goal because the Western Media is sensationalizing them and their fake pictures.

I really could not believe the funeral was shown live in tv.
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:15 AM   #173
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There are many countries we know nothing about.

Swaziland, Rwanda, Bhutan, Laos, Guatemala etc...
These countries don't get attention because they don't have nukes?
North Korea is achieving their goal because the Western Media is sensationalizing them and their fake pictures.

I really could not believe the funeral was shown live in tv.
Was it live TV though? I was watching on CNN and for all I know that "live" video was hours/days earlier and already chopped and edited. How else could they have close-ups of wailing and distraught citizens but no cameras running around on the wide shots?
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Was it live TV though? I was watching on CNN and for all I know that "live" video was hours/days earlier and already chopped and edited. How else could they have close-ups of wailing and distraught citizens but no cameras running around on the wide shots?
Seemed live or not that far behind. CNN was showing it at night which is day in Korea. BBC was showing almost the same feed.

Both CNN and BBC also showed the announcement of Kim's death on Sunday(?) night. This of course was a full 24 hours after he really died for the Koreans to get everyone in position for the cameras.
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Seemed live or not that far behind. CNN was showing it at night which is day in Korea. BBC was showing almost the same feed.

Both CNN and BBC also showed the announcement of Kim's death on Sunday(?) night. This of course was a full 24 hours after he really died for the Koreans to get everyone in position for the cameras.
I don't know. I really don't know about cameras to cover events and whats needed. It just seemed odd to me that a country with a fleet of 1980's luxury vehicles had HD cameras milling around to get "candid" shots and send it out live. I know the CNN guy was reporting from the South as he wasn't allowed in, so of course we're left relying on the governing regime for consistency and accuracy.

Why would I care? I guess I just feel better thinking its somewhat amusing if I convince myself its all staged anyway. Otherwise I would have to realise the extreme poverty, torture, slavery and other nightmares that these people are subjected to.
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I don't know. I really don't know about cameras to cover events and whats needed. It just seemed odd to me that a country with a fleet of 1980's luxury vehicles had HD cameras milling around to get "candid" shots and send it out live. I know the CNN guy was reporting from the South as he wasn't allowed in, so of course we're left relying on the governing regime for consistency and accuracy.

Why would I care? I guess I just feel better thinking its somewhat amusing if I convince myself its all staged anyway. Otherwise I would have to realise the extreme poverty, torture, slavery and other nightmares that these people are subjected to.
True True.

But they think you and I are in a worse situation then they are in so they're content. Happy would be a strong word so just content.
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True True.

But they think you and I are in a worse situation then they are in so they're content. Happy would be a strong word so just content.
I don't think that's really true . . . . . the average NK citizen knows more about the outside world than their predecessor generations did.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127836840

Its just not healthy to your person to say anything about it if you're living there.

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I don't think that's really true . . . . . the average NK citizen knows more about the outside world than their predecessor generations did.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127836840

Its just not healthy to your person to say anything about it if you're living there.

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If that's true, they have to rise up eventually. They need to protest or storm something. Millions of them. Pyongyang has 4 million(?) people.
Protest, demonstrate.. turn "Great Leader" square into "Freedom" square.

Sure it's not healthy and people will get shot and people will die but the sacrifice has to be made like in Egypt and Syria etc... for future generations.

They sacrificed to BE communist, now that system has failed (if they realize that it's failed) and they must sacrifice to right the wrongs of the past.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yodok_concentration_camp

Stories of attrocities in WWII concentration camps get a lot of mainstream attention but the gulags and concentration camps in communist countries were and are possibly a lot worse and very few people ever read about them.
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Stories of attrocities in WWII concentration camps get a lot of mainstream attention but the gulags and concentration camps in communist countries were and are possibly a lot worse and very few people ever read about them.
Yup, Also the Vietnamese "ReEducation" Camps after that war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reeducation_camp
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