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Old 05-28-2006, 11:00 PM   #141
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Add to that this:

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/latest...81326/1e4910ac

... and it really makes one wonder just what the hell they think the end result is going to be.
I'm not familiar with this source, but this sounds like scary stuff. Why's it being picked up in New Zealand and not here? If this turns out to be true, there are going to be some red faces in the US media, IMO.

What frightens me the most about this particular piece is the Pentagon's response: (emphasis mine)
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A US Pentagon spokesman quoted by the newspaper said no one now being held at Guantanamo was a juvenile and rejected arguments that normal criminal law applied to the facility.
They don't even bother to deny it. That's essentially tantamount to "try and stop us."
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Old 05-29-2006, 02:21 AM   #142
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Lets see your source.
www.iraqbodycount.net

Gee Lanny way to catch me. Opps I said 45000, misquoting them.


Mass Graves
US State department on the Kurds
182,000+
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/27000.htm
Attrocities
http://www.state.gov/s/wci/fs/19352.htm

CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/13/iraq.graves/
300 thousand.

300 mass graves found in Iraq: Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...042901191.html

Since we know so many here like to attack the source.....
Aljazeera
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...AED3A713B2.htm

Some pictures:
http://www.9neesan.com/massgraves/

DISPLACED PEOPLES

Returnees as of May 2006
http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/v...s&id=409ba6b34

Immigration to the US
http://www.migrationinformation.org/...lay.cfm?ID=113

If you count the Marsh Arabs and these numbers I am at about 300-400,000 people.

If you includew the 800,000 Kurds driven from their homes as will you get to the 1-2 million mark

Most if not all have returned home.
One last article from Assyrian International New Agency
http://www.aina.org/reports/hrw0804.htm

The impact of three decades of forced displacement and Arabization has been immense. U.N.-Habitat counted a total of 805,505 displaced persons living in the Kurdish governorates of Arbil, Duhok, and Sulaimaniyya in 2001. Arabization, as a policy of forced transfer of populations, constituted a crime against humanity, and the victims of that policy have a right to return to their homes or be compensated. However, the rights of the victims of Arabization must be implemented in a manner that does not cause additional human rights abuses against the ethnic Arab populations who settled in the north. Fair and impartial procedures are needed to determine the status of claims and the rights of individuals. Special efforts may be necessary in order to guarantee that returning women, including but not limited to heads of households, are able to exercise their property and inheritance rights. It will also be important to ensure that property restitution rights not be restricted to owners of housing or other property but also address the rights of tenants, cooperative residents, and other tenure groups.

Marsh Arabs
In a 16-page briefing paper, “The Iraqi Government Assault on the Marsh Arabs,” Human Rights Watch documents how systematic bombardment of villages, widespread arbitrary arrests, torture, “disappearances,” summary executions, and forced displacement have reduced the Marsh Arabs from more than 250,000 to as few as 40,000.
http://www.hrw.org/press/2003/01/iraq012503.htm
http://www.iraqfoundation.org/projec...an/29_hrw.html
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