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Old 06-22-2017, 04:50 PM   #141
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Crazy how people are overvaluing Hamonic. He's not that much if at all better than Stone and we could re-sign Stone without losing any assets.
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Old 06-22-2017, 04:53 PM   #142
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I'd rather sign Stone and Francois Beauchemin for the #4/5 spots for 6 million or so than waste assets going after someone else. When the acquisition cost is just $ and you have $ to spend, why not go that route. A lot of players will see Calgary as a team on the verge of becoming elite, and were mostly hampered by bad contracts that have now mostly expired. With those $ being reallocated towards quality talent, the Flames should be up there with Chicago and Minnesota for the top spot in the West.
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Old 06-22-2017, 04:54 PM   #143
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Yeah out of those two that are rumored i would much prefer Methot. Big guy plays big, good first pass. I really think he would fit really well here, especially with the loss of Engalland
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Old 06-22-2017, 04:55 PM   #144
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Two 1sts?

Shinkaruk and Poirier.

Done and done.
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:01 PM   #145
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Here is the TSN segment:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/insider-...henyuk~1152207

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Mckenzie stresses the Flames only have SOME interest in Hamonic
Hamonic is affordable in terms of his contract but may not be affordable in terms of acquisition cost
word on street is asking price of 2 1st round picks
Flames recognize they will need to give up a 1st round pick + or a 1st round pick ++ for Hamonic
Flames are simultaneously negotiating with Stone and that might be the option they end up going with instead of Hamonic
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I'd rather sign Stone and Francois Beauchemin for the #4/5 spots for 6 million or so than waste assets going after someone else.
Beauchemin? Barf. I think he's done. 37 and was horrible last year. His foot speed has fallen off. Terrible suggestion IMO. I wouldn't want him here on anything more than a tryout and even then I'd be skeptical.
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:02 PM   #147
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I am kind of wondering if Hamonic reinstated his trade request... his name has been in rumors for the last few months
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:03 PM   #148
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I hope we sign Stone and finally give a prospect a job .
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:04 PM   #149
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Yeah if the cost is two firsts then no chance.

Get Demers from the Panthers on the cheap since they want to clear cap space. Maybe see if you can get Kulikov, Nesterov, or Franson on a cheap short term deal for the bottom pairing. Then leave the 6/7 spots open for young guys.

No need to spend huge assets on a #4 d-man for us, our top 3 is good enough that we don't need to be desperate.

If you could go into the season with:

Gio - Hamilton
Brodie - Demers
Kulikov - Andersson
Kulak

That would be pretty damn impressive.

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Old 06-22-2017, 05:04 PM   #150
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Hamilton had no cost certainty as he was unsigned. He was refusing a higher contract from the Bruins that the Flames eventually signed him to, which was near 6M a year. Not to mention he would be an Oiler if not for the grudges between the two teams. The Flames really lucked into him.

Hamonic, on the other hand, is making less than 4M for the near future, making him one of the best non-ELC contracts in the league when healthy. It's not fair to compare the players directly in value.

I wouldn't mind if the Flames traded two firsts for Hamonic.
I agree - it should never be used as a comparison to other trades or trade proposals unless there's a similar situation - at least CBA wise. It was a terribly lopsided trade in our favor.

My parody video about it actually got posted on both the Flames and Bruins reddits earlier in the week. I swear the Bruins fans found it funnier than the Flames did - but the vid is mostly making fun of Chiarelli and not the Bruins, so I'm not surprised.

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I am kind of wondering if Hamonic reinstated his trade request... his name has been in rumors for the last few months
was wondering this too. very possible.
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:05 PM   #152
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Beauchemin? Barf. I think he's done. 37 and was horrible last year. His foot speed has fallen off. Terrible suggestion IMO. I wouldn't want him here on anything more than a tryout and even then I'd be skeptical.
After the last PTO for an old slow defenseman.....please, just no
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:07 PM   #153
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Smarter just to re-sign Stone.
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Crazy how people are overvaluing Hamonic. He's not that much if at all better than Stone and we could re-sign Stone without losing any assets.
Flames will give Arizona their 5th rounder in 2018 if they re-sign Stone.
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:16 PM   #155
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An interesting choice for the Flames might be Brayden McNabb. He's 6' 4 and 26 with one year left on his 1.7M contract. Sure he shoots left but he would fill the 5/6 roll nicely.

Judging by the Schlemko deal the ask wouldn't be high either.

This is a good idea, he is huge, if he can have a season like he did in 2015-16, than it would be worth it.


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Old 06-22-2017, 05:20 PM   #156
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McNabb will be on the Knights opening night roster. He's one of the guys they brought to Vegas and I would bet they aren't going to move him.
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Simultaneously negotiating with Stone. Hmm. If this doesn't work for you, we may have to go in another direction.

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Old 06-22-2017, 05:29 PM   #158
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Simultaneously negotiating with Stone. Hmm. If this doesn't work for you, we may have to in another direction.
Pretty good strategy if his ask is too high. Especially if the guy really wants to be in Calgary for family reasons.
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I hope we do get stone signed and give the guys on the farm a chance or sign another FA to a reasonable deal
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