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Old 03-04-2016, 03:50 PM   #141
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It's still way too much. Bishop will be 30-years-old and is little more than an above average starter. Top-ten draft picks should be reserved for acquiring young, high end players.
Like Jonathan Druin?
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:50 PM   #142
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What if the Flames won the draft lotto, pick first overall and take Matthews--but then trade Bennett for either 2nd or 3rd overall straight up and take one of the Fins?

How insane would that be? That way, you're not forced to move a centre to an unnatural position and can get a very, very skilled winger along with a generational talent
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:56 PM   #143
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Chycren is my #2.

If we win the lottery, I don't have a problem trading down as long as we keep Chycren.

I think you'd get a lot for the #1 pick, even if you're dropping 1 player.
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:00 PM   #144
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What if the Flames won the draft lotto, pick first overall and take Matthews--but then trade Bennett for either 2nd or 3rd overall straight up and take one of the Fins?

How insane would that be? That way, you're not forced to move a centre to an unnatural position and can get a very, very skilled winger along with a generational talent
Are the fins guaranteed to be better than Bennett? I like what we have in Bennett a lot. A pest that could potentially put up elite numbers? Sign me up.
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Like Jonathan Druin?

Drouin is not a high-end NHL player. He is a prospect with high upside, but LOTS of questions yet surrounding his game. If he is moved this summer, expect to be extremely underwhelmed by the return.
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:08 PM   #146
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Drouin is not a high-end NHL player. He is a prospect with high upside, but LOTS of questions yet surrounding his game. If he is moved this summer, expect to be extremely underwhelmed by the return.
I disagree about the underwhelmed part. If he was going to get that kind of return it would have been done already.
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:17 PM   #147
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I disagree about the underwhelmed part. If he was going to get that kind of return it would have been done already.

That makes no sense at all. If there was a half-way good offer for him, he would have been moved at the deadline. The fact that this has dragged on as long as it has is because Yzerman is loathe to move him for a collection of picks/prospects. He is not netting any more than similar high profile disgruntled prospects like Kyle Turris.
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:18 PM   #148
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What if the Flames won the draft lotto, pick first overall and take Matthews--but then trade Bennett for either 2nd or 3rd overall straight up and take one of the Fins?

How insane would that be? That way, you're not forced to move a centre to an unnatural position and can get a very, very skilled winger along with a generational talent
Probably wouldn't happen and why does anyone want to trade Bennett. The flames are in a great place because a center or a winger are BOTH positional needs. If it's lucky #1 Mathews is eventually the number one and Bennett is a winger. If it's lucky #2 or #3 its a RW and Bennett is a center. Either way you can get two lines with 2 great centers and a great winger on each.
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:34 PM   #149
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Very sad that it may be the first time since 1970, that no Canadian teams qualify for the playoffs.

I found this online. The NHL Draft Lottery simulator. Kind of fun to play.

http://nhllotterysimulator.com/
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Flames should go off the board with the first pick. Select Vontae Mack.
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:42 PM   #151
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How about move 1st over all for Strome and Phoenix 1st?
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Old 03-04-2016, 05:01 PM   #152
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1: Matthews. For Sure. You move Bennett permanently to the wing, maybe his wing. The only way you don't make that pick is if Arizona is 2 or 3 and is willing to pay an absurd amount to get him, and you could still have a Finn.

2: Laine

3: Puljujarvi

4: Chychrun. He's, I think BPA for sure at this pick and I'm quite sure the first three will go as anticipated. In this case, you have a killer D, and you can leverage some assets, including prospects like Andersson, etc to try and shore up your top 6 forwards.

5. I think Dubois.

6. Either Tkachuk or Dubois, whomever is available.
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Old 03-04-2016, 05:05 PM   #153
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Yeah mine is pretty similar right now.

1. Matthews (C)
2. Laine (RW)
3. Puljujarvi (RW)
4. Chychrun (D)
5. Tkachuk (LW)
6. Dubois (LW/C)

At this point I'd be surprised if the guy we end up with isn't in that list.
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Old 03-04-2016, 05:13 PM   #154
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What day is the lottery on? Sorry if it's already been mentioned here
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2. Laine (RW)
Laine is a LW who shoots right like James Neal and Alex Ovechkin.
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Probably wouldn't happen and why does anyone want to trade Bennett.
Oh, it happens all the time. Trade away the #4 overall pick from a couple of years ago to make room for a #1 overall at the same position.

Like f'rinstance, a highly skilled and respected NHL GM once traded away the 21-year-old Roberto Luongo to make room for his new #1 overall draft pick, Rick DiPietro.

Oh, wait. That was Mike Milbury. Carry on.
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Old 03-04-2016, 05:21 PM   #157
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If we land in the top 3 I think it's pretty set

1 - Matthews
2/3 - Laine or Puljujarvi

out of the top three it gets a little more interesting and I would be fine with one of Tkachuk/Dubois/Nylander. Would really prefer getting a top 6 forward prospect over another Dman.

All that being said, I think most important thing Calgary has to do at (or before) this draft is get a starting goal tender. Picks and/or prospects/players should be moved for someone with at least a league average save percentage.
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Old 03-04-2016, 05:24 PM   #158
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It's still way too much. Bishop will be 30-years-old and is little more than an above average starter. Top-ten draft picks should be reserved for acquiring young, high end players.
You have to give up something to get something and if the Flames don't trade for a starter their only other option is to sign a guy like Reimer. There is no doubt Bishop is better than Reimer or any available UFA goaltender so.....
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Laine is a LW who shoots right like James Neal and Alex Ovechkin.
Yeah, from everything I have read he's used mainly as a LW and just after the WJC has been converted to C. It's what made that top line so successful in the WJC as well as Puljujarvi is the only true RW until you get to Gauthier further down the ladder. Even Nylander has been used LW along side McLeod in Missasauga. But has been used a lot on RW too. So he's more likely to be a good conversion candidate to RW. Not sure how Laine's shot converts over on RW. He likes the left side a bunch.
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Old 03-04-2016, 05:27 PM   #160
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Crazy that people prefer the Fins to Matthews as I think he is clear by and far the top prospect in the draft ready to make significant impact right away.

As I said in another thread I would be interested to see just how much Arizona would give up to get Matthews. If they are serious about keeping that team in the market nothing sells tickets like a homegrown superstar. is Strome+their 2 1st round picks enough?

Either of the Fins would be awesome as well. Personally I could see one of those picks paired with Bennett on the second line while Monahan Gaudreau stay together on the top line (at least to start the season)
Wonder if Arizona would consider moving OEL for the 1st+?
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