Study links cannabis use to psychosis

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by robocop

It's clear you have no idea what you are talking about on this.

1.when you vaporize you require a fraction of what you do when smoking. By fraction I mean much less than a quarter of mass. What I used to smoke in one night would last at least a week vaporizing.
2.most vaporizers don't have temperatures that high and have an apparatus that delivers the vapor through a non-absorbant medium so that the vapor is luke warm at most when it gets to your mouth.

That's why people do it, it's cheap as hell, doesn't hurt your lungs at all and gives you less of a headache (these are the professionally made ones of course)

WTF are you talking about?

I think you might want to reread my post. It has nothing to do with vaporizing....other than 'praising' HOOT for choosing that method of comsumption.

[robocop]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

WTF are you talking about?

I think you might want to reread my post. It has nothing to do with vaporizing....other than 'praising' HOOT for choosing that method of comsumption.

no one would ever vaporize 5-10 joints a day

vaporized weed is not superheated gas

is that clear enough for you

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by TheSutterDynasty

You can ignore it all you want, but the evidence is there. Maybe the weed is giving you delusions?



From:
Indlekofer, F. Piechatzek, M. Daamen, M. Glasmacher, C. Lieb, R. Pfister, H. Tucha, O. Lange, K W. Wittchen, H U. Schutz, C G.
Reduced memory and attention performance in a population-based sample of young adults with a moderate lifetime use of cannabis
Journal of Psychopharmacology. 23(5):495-509, 2009 Jul.

Here's a good one. Longitudinal study that used neurocognitive tests to assess various cognitive parameters in 113 subjects throughout their lives since infancy. It showed that:



From:
Fried, P A. Watkinson, B. Gray, R.
Neurocognitive consequences of marihuana--a comparison with pre-drug performance.
Neurotoxicology & Teratology. 27(2):231-9, 2005 Mar-Apr.

And despite the fact that millions upon millions of people have been using the drug since at least the 1960's, we're not seeing any epidemic of mental or physical illnesses caused by marijuana. Anecdotal evidence perhaps but the sample size is very high.

[TheSutterDynasty]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

And despite the fact that millions upon millions of people have been using the drug since at least the 1960's, we're not seeing any epidemic of mental or physical illnesses caused by marijuana. Anecdotal evidence perhaps but the sample size is very high.

Right, because cognitive deficiencies are glaringly obvious

That's why we have randomized control trials.

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

And despite the fact that millions upon millions of people have been using the drug since at least the 1960's, we're not seeing any epidemic of mental or physical illnesses caused by marijuana. Anecdotal evidence perhaps but the sample size is very high.

I am no scientist, nor do I read extensive studies on the effects of marijuana. I just know what I have experienced with 'pot heads' over the years. Everyone I've known to 'smoke pot' are rarely motivated to do much else but get high and talk about how great pot is. Some people have even tried to convince me it's 'good for them.' It just seems kind of silly to me to talk about something you do that's illegal in the first place. I'd think that pot smokers would be a bit more 'paranoid.'

[Sainters7]

^^^
Pot heads and people who smoke pot aren't necessarily the same thing.

It actually amazed me when I turned about 19-20 how many adults in my extended family puff(they did a good job keeping it hidden as I was growing up), and for the most part all of them are successful, two of them very much so. Weed definitely affects your motivation, especially when used a lot, but that doesn't mean every person who does it is a lazy, useless ***. That's one of the things that bothers me when non-pot smokers refer to pot smokers. The vast, sweeping generalizations. It's like saying everyone that drinks is a raging drunk.

btw that wasn't directed at you so much as the conversation in general.

[CaptainCrunch]

I just think if you're heavy drinking or smoking pot past the age of 30 it goes from cool to sad in a hurry.

I've only smoked pot a couple of times, once when I was in my teens, and I remember the 6 hour 2 block walk to 7/11 to buy comic books.

And once about 7 years ago before a U2 concert, it didn't really do much for me.

I was also a heavy drinker, but I gave that up when I stopped having hangovers because I knew that was a problem.

That euphoric high, that drunken feeling, thats your body warning you that your poisoning it.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

Everyone I've known to 'smoke pot' are rarely motivated to do much else but get high and talk about how great pot is.

lol You need a new group of friends...some of the most successful people have or do smoke pot. If someone is going to be lazy and unmotivated they would be that way regardless of smoking pot.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

I am no scientist, nor do I read extensive studies on the effects of marijuana. I just know what I have experienced with 'pot heads' over the years. Everyone I've known to 'smoke pot' are rarely motivated to do much else but get high and talk about how great pot is. Some people have even tried to convince me it's 'good for them.' It just seems kind of silly to me to talk about something you do that's illegal in the first place. I'd think that pot smokers would be a bit more 'paranoid.'

Many in my group of 30-something friends smoke pot. All of them have post-secondary educations, professional jobs and families. You don't need to be a scientist to see not everybody who smokes pot is a burnout.

[Dion]

THC Impacts Brain Functioning

THC is up to no good in the brain. THC finds brain cells, or neurons, with specific kinds of receptors called cannabinoid receptors and binds to them.

Certain parts of the brain have high concentrations of cannabinoid receptors. These areas are the hippocampus, the cerebellum, the basal ganglia, and the cerebral cortex. The functions that these brain areas control are the ones most affected by marijuana.

For example, THC interferes with learning and memory—that is because the hippocampus—a part of the brain with a funny name and a big job— plays a critical role in certain types of learning. Disrupting its normal functioning can lead to problems studying, learning new things, and recalling recent events. The difficulty can be a lot more serious than forgetting if you took out the trash this morning, which happens to everyone once in a while.

Do these effects persist? We don’t know for sure, but as adolescents your brains are still developing. So is it really worth the risk?

http://teens.drugabuse.gov/facts/facts_mj1.php

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Dion

THC Impacts Brain Functioning

http://teens.drugabuse.gov/facts/facts_mj1.php

Drugs aren't good for kids? That's some pretty groundbreaking research you found, Dion!

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by HOOT

I will. I will preach whatever I want, I have seen enough information on the subject to not be worried at all.

Yeah, except a lot of your posts have shown an insane amount of confirmation bias.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Yeah, except a lot of your posts have shown an insane amount of confirmation bias.

I think I made it pretty clear where I stand on the subject before even making my post on the subject. You can call it bias if you want but for every study that shows marijuana is bad, there is one that shows it isn't.

If there was ample evidence that marijuana caused the harms that some are claiming the government would be showcasing them, not getting scientiest to change the wordings in their findings to make it seems worse that it is. This goes back to the lung cancer argument and a report put out in 2000 that the US government sponsored and they wouldn't let it be released until they change it to "should" or "may" cause lung cancer.

[TheSutterDynasty]

Originally Posted by HOOT

You can call it bias if you want but for every study that shows marijuana is bad, there is one that shows it isn't.

Post them. Otherwise you're just talking out of your ass.

Originally Posted by HOOT

If there was ample evidence that marijuana caused the harms that some are claiming the government would be showcasing them, not getting scientiest to change the wordings in their findings to make it seems worse that it is.

Again, the onus of proof is on you. Show us some evidence that this has happened. You don't even understand the concept of empirical evidence, let alone how to interpret studies.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by TheSutterDynasty

You don't even understand the concept of empirical evidence, let alone how to interpret studies.

Probably because I'm a "pothead". As I said before I'm not wasting my time because no one is changing any opinions on the matter.

[TheSutterDynasty]

Originally Posted by HOOT

Probably because I'm a "pothead". As I said before I'm not wasting my time because no one is changing any opinions on the matter.

So let me get this straight:

1) HOOT enters thread to defend his stance.
2) HOOT ignores anything against his stance.
3) HOOT does nothing to prove his stance.

Thanks for your fabulous contribution to this thread, HOOT!

[Delthefunky]

Until about 2 months ago, being gay in Alberta was actually officially considered a mental illness.

My only point being that the government and it's "proffessionals" are capable of being wrong

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by TheSutterDynasty

Thanks for your fabulous contribution to this thread, HOOT!

Anytime!

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by HOOT

lol You need a new group of friends...some of the most successful people have or do smoke pot. If someone is going to be lazy and unmotivated they would be that way regardless of smoking pot.

No, I don't have friends who smoke pot. I prefer not to be associated with illegal substances. I have two kids. My group of friends are perfectly successful without having anything to do with pot. Thanks.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

No, I don't have friends who smoke pot. I prefer not to be associated with illegal substances. I have two kids. My group of friends are perfectly successful without having anything to do with pot. Thanks.

Is everyone of your friends successful? That's pretty amazing!