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				Because of what else would be coming with him.  
 
The Canucks basically replace his cap hit with Lindholm’s, a far more valuable piece which means they will be paying handsomely to do so. 
			
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I am putting my faith in your analysis.  I hope you’re right.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-31-2024, 07:15 PM
			
			
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			Would he play with the other Elias? That’s a lot of Eliases.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-31-2024, 07:16 PM
			
			
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				It had better be a lot more than Kusmenko and their 1st… 
			
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Why do you think that?  Should the Flames hold out until it's too late and get a couple 2nd round picks. Kuzmenko is only signed for one more year, has shown he can score goals, a 1st round pick plus another prospect.
 
Holding out gets you the Iginla and Bouemeester packages, how did that work out>
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-31-2024, 07:16 PM
			
			
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			Zadorov, Lindholm, possibly Tanev...funny how we as a city and organization from top to bottom collectively hate the Oilers so much that we'd rather load up our 2nd biggest rival (and biggest rival from 2004-15) simply to screw with the Greasers' playoff chances.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-31-2024, 07:16 PM
			
			
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				I hope he doesn’t waive 
			
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Without knowing the full return yet, why would you hope one way or the other? This could be a great trade. We don’t know yet
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-31-2024, 07:17 PM
			
			
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			Trades are good. Let's get the ball rolling. It's also hilarious to see posters pull a couple of words out of a tweet again to gripe about. Let's wait until the trad is done THEN commenced with the trashing of it!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-31-2024, 07:17 PM
			
			
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			Kuz 1st and brzusrewicz?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-31-2024, 07:17 PM
			
			
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				What the hell does is this supposed to mean? 
			
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The probability that dreger is correct on something has to be quite low, just based on precedent.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-31-2024, 07:17 PM
			
			
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				Can the Flames retain AND take Kuzmenko?  
 
He's $5.5 AAV 
			
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Capfruendly says yes.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-31-2024, 07:17 PM
			
			
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			If I find out we were actively going after a roster player... 
 
Like, in other words, the trade better be Lindholm for a 1st and a good prospect or a 2nd and Kuzmenko is included to make the salary work. It better not be Lindholm for Kuzmenko and then toss in a pick or two so I don't get fired.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-31-2024, 07:17 PM
			
			
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			It's better than Edmonton but stop trading with the Canucks.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-31-2024, 07:18 PM
			
			
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				Trades are good. Let's get the ball rolling. It's also hilarious to see posters pull a couple of words out of a tweet again to gripe about. Let's wait until the trad is done THEN commenced with the trashing of it! 
			
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Nope. Trashing has begun.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-31-2024, 07:18 PM
			
			
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				Capfruendly says yes. 
			
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I saw that and liked your post.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-31-2024, 07:18 PM
			
			
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				Zadorov, Lindholm, possibly Tanev...funny how we as a city and organization from top to bottom collectively hate the Oilers so much that we'd rather load up our 2nd biggest rival (and biggest rival from 2004-15) simply to screw with the Greasers' playoff chances. 
			
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Why does this trade hurt the oilers? Honest question. Pretty much zero chance Lindholm would be traded to Edmonton.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-31-2024, 07:19 PM
			
			
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				Why does this trade hurt the oilers? Honest question. Pretty much zero chance Lindholm would be traded to Edmonton. 
			
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Divisional playoff format. Fair chance Greasers vs Canucks 2nd round happens. Makes the Canucks tougher to beat.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-31-2024, 07:19 PM
			
			
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			I'm a bit underwhelmed by this. Especially because it feels like we already lost the trade with Zadorov. How are other GMs in the league able to get such a haul for players yet it seems like we have to claw just to get anything. I feel like Conroy is getting owned by Allvin so far. Reminds me of Kent Hughes owning Brad Treliving.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-31-2024, 07:19 PM
			
			
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			I'm glad they're kicking off at least. Convince Kuzy to waive with the promise to flip him.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-31-2024, 07:20 PM
			
			
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			So does this means Coleman goes to the allstar game?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-31-2024, 07:20 PM
			
			
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				I'm a bit underwhelmed by this. Especially because it feels like we already lost the trade with Zadorov. How are other GMs in the league able to get such a haul for players yet it seems like we have to claw just to get anything. I feel like Conroy is getting owned by Allvin so far. Reminds me of Kent Hughes owning Brad Treliving. 
			
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Felt like we got an overpay for Zadorov myself or market value. Hard to get much juice for a 5/6 dman.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-31-2024, 07:20 PM
			
			
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			Kuz's value is down right now because he's terrified of screwing up and getting further into Tocchet's bad books.  Watched him a lot last year and I think with a pass first guy like Huberdeau, if Kuzmenko gets to the front of the net he could bang in enough goals to pump up his value and then flip him in the off season or sometime next season.  If this is us finally waving the white flag on this season, we can afford a guy who is offense only and doesn't back check if we can improve his value as an asset.  But he can't be the centrepiece of this.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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