[PGT] Flames 3 Tkachuk 1

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

It felt to me that Florida handed that win to the Flames. Though credit to the Flames for stepping up and seizing the opportunity.

Somewhere in the GT when it was tied and the Flames were being dummied I said I thought the Flames would score out of nowhere. It was that kind of game.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

What is the deal with Tkachuk this year. I can't believe he's only on pace for about 60 points. He didn't look great last night but still generated a lot of opportunities and was involved in the offensive action. What's the reason for low production? Just bad luck? Not healthy?

Some have speculated he’s not fully healthy but I don’t really watch the Panthers. I thought he looked pretty good last night.

If you want the pure unbiased take on Tkachuk there is only one CP poster who can give it to you and we all know who that is.

[mogg]

Originally Posted by FlamingHomer

Man, there were some pretty absurd comments from the Oilers fans in the ATL.

Hoping Raanta falls to them on the waiver wire? Holy moly.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

What is the deal with Tkachuk this year. I can't believe he's only on pace for about 60 points. He didn't look great last night but still generated a lot of opportunities and was involved in the offensive action. What's the reason for low production? Just bad luck? Not healthy?

I'm going with bad luck. He still looks great out there to me except for the not scoring part. Saw him stick his butt out a number of times to protect the puck effectively (though I did see him try that with Weegar and Weegar got the puck loose leading to a Flames player picking it up), caused enough chaos on their first goal around the crease and lots of solid board work where he comes out with the puck or gets it to a teammate effectively. Numbers aren't there right now, but it'll come.

[Bingo]

A little of both by the looks of it.

A lot of his individual underlyings are down too.

Shots/60 down 21%
Individual expected goals down 25%
Individual scoring chances down 21%

One ice ... expected goals for /60 down 26%

On the luck side ... non existent 2nd non primary assist totals.

[Hack&Lube]

Sam Bennett was injured most of the year and not playing with Tkachuk which many thought impacted his playstyle and production.

Florida fans also said he looks softer this year, maybe due to shying away from aggressive plays due to lingering effects of his massive playoff injuries last season.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Sam Bennett was injured most of the year and not playing with Tkachuk which many thought impacted his playstyle and production.

Florida fans also said he looks softer this year, maybe due to shying away from aggressive plays due to lingering effects of his massive playoff injuries last season.

He is definitely not getting into scrums as much or laying out guys with his patented reverse hits. He still goes to the dirty areas of the ice, but it's a little tentative.

I don't blame him. Fracturing a sternum is dangerous (ruptured cardiac sac, cardiac tamponade), and so it maybe reminded him of his mortality a little. Can't blame the guy for wanting to take care of himself.

I'm sure come playoffs he'll be up to full speed.

[looooob]

From the ATL
Yep it's quite obvious. Playing in that dump of an arena against no real superstars is probably pretty hard for a lot of eastern teams to get the competitive juices


This could be one of the better ones yet, so the Oilers record suffers because of their awesome building? Good thing they still have 30 road games remaining ( and a 4-8 road record...)

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Blame it on the booze, got 'em feelin loose
Blame it on the dome, head's 'ready at home
Blame it on the la-a-a-ack of superstars
Rollin' on their b-a-a-a-acks cause they didn't start Vladar

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Some have speculated he’s not fully healthy but I don’t really watch the Panthers. I thought he looked pretty good last night.

If you want the pure unbiased take on Tkachuk there is only one CP poster who can give it to you and we all know who that is.

The fact is Tkachuk, Gaudreau, Lindholm, etc... all fed off each other's success and personalities, and it leaked into the secondary of the team with Backlund and Andersson, etc... It's a team game and you can't just take your game somewhere else and expect the same player to be that with different players. Even if those players have similar stat-lines, that doesn't make the connection the same.

[gvitaly]

Coleman posted this after the win on Instagram:


It needs some sort of a caption though.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Bingo

How you think that steaming pile of poo for a powerplay can be dropped at the feet of one player is beyond me.

We could use more talent, but surprised that Marc Savard hasn't had a bigger impact. At least funneling more shots.

[TheIronMaiden]

Hanifin played a good game as well.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

We could use more talent, but surprised that Marc Savard hasn't had a bigger impact. At least funneling more shots.

Savard had one NHL season as an AC and then was an HC in junior. I don't know but I'm betting that junior power plays are a lot less structured and there's a lot more chances bercause the defence is just not as good. Though when he was in St. Louis their PP was 3rd in the league and was over 24%.

I'd really like to know who good PP coaches are in this league. I've heard Tanguay in Detroit, Carbery when he was in TO.

[HitterD]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Savard had one NHL season as an AC and then was an HC in junior. I don't know but I'm betting that junior power plays are a lot less structured and there's a lot more chances bercause the defence is just not as good. Though when he was in St. Louis their PP was 3rd in the league and was over 24%.

I'd really like to know who good PP coaches are in this league. I've heard Tanguay in Detroit, Carbery when he was in TO.

Thats actually a really good question. Seems good power play depends much more on personnel and execution than structure, but at the same time I do wonder what the Flames are actually trying to do when they get the man advantage. It seems to me they don't have a great understanding of how to gain the zone clean, and then how to generate scoring chances with traffic.

Powerplays are all about small odd-man situations, often 3 on 2 anywhere on the ice. The Flames seem to set up a 3-2 up high and leave the low porrtion of the zone 2 on 2, which to me doesnt seem to work because the Flames lack a truely scary shooter from the point. So they pass it between 3 players high in the zone, none of which are truly a threat to blast a puck past a goaling that isnt heavily screened because there's only 2 players trying to get anything going on the low end of the zone.

With a powerplay as poor as the Flames' has been, why not just try to get a bunch of bodies near the goaltender and get some shots through the havoc? what's the worst that will happen? Odd-man rushes the other way when the shot gets blocked? oh well they are giving them up anyway.

[Shazam]

McDavid is the best PP coach in the NHL.

[Deegee]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

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I honestly have no idea why Oilers fans think Rogers is a great arena. It is a terrible arena and a horrible place to watch a game. Anything not in the expensive section are some of the most uncomfortable seats I've ever sat in and I end up limping out of that damned dump for events because of how little leg room there is. It's toilet shaped for a reason - it's an absolute ####hole.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

He is definitely not getting into scrums as much or laying out guys with his patented reverse hits. He still goes to the dirty areas of the ice, but it's a little tentative.

I don't blame him. Fracturing a sternum is dangerous (ruptured cardiac sac, cardiac tamponade), and so it maybe reminded him of his mortality a little. Can't blame the guy for wanting to take care of himself.

I'm sure come playoffs he'll be up to full speed.

Okay...you made that one up!

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Some have speculated he’s not fully healthy but I don’t really watch the Panthers. I thought he looked pretty good last night.

If you want the pure unbiased take on Tkachuk there is only one CP poster who can give it to you and we all know who that is.

yeah he ####ing sucks now

all jokes aside I would wager last year was his career season, he probably gets to PPG again at some point but I have doubts about 40 goals and 100 points.

[Tsawwassen]

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