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Old 08-18-2022, 11:48 AM   #121
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Where does Montreal get the capspace?
That is the missing part of this trade. Something has to come back or its a three way trade.

Habs have zero cap space.
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:48 AM   #122
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Just a thought. Monahan and Pelletier for Guhle.

Montreal would get the better prospect and they swap a Quebecer for a Albertan.
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:48 AM   #123
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If this is a first it will really sour the whole signing for me.
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:48 AM   #124
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If it's a pick, and given that the question about Monahan is injury, there should be conditions.
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:49 AM   #125
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This is probably the best way to look at it. Softens the blow.

That said, I think something is up with Monahan's injuries that is scaring the Flames away, especially as he had one year left and there was rumor of Lucic having interest around the league.
But that doesn't make any sense. If he was having injury problems could be placed on LTIR without having to give away an asset. I think there is something bigger here.
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:49 AM   #126
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This is probably the best way to look at it. Softens the blow.

That said, I think something is up with Monahan's injuries that is scaring the Flames away, especially as he had one year left and there was rumor of Lucic having interest around the league.
It could actually be that he ends up "healthy" for a sizeable chunk of the season but ineffective (what we saw last year) which is worse than him being on IR.
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:49 AM   #127
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Kadri for Monahan + 1st is a great deal, IMO
IF that's the deal, I feel like we're being held over a barrel to deal one year's worth of cap. At a glance, sure that's good value, but it's an unnecessary price to pay IMO due to the desperation of our situation.
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:49 AM   #128
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And that is exactly what it is:

Kadri $7M for Monahan $6.35M + 1st

(assuming the 1st is in fact what is going back)
Don't forget its 7 years of Kadri until age 39 so not all roses.

I still thinking something is coming back from Habs. They have zero cap space.
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:49 AM   #129
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I am not ready to give up on Monahan... even if its a kings ransom I am going to be sad about this one
Sean will never be an impact player again. This is such an amazing offload. Holy cow.
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Would you rather have Monahan sitting on the books, eating cap hit, and wasting a year of our window?
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:50 AM   #131
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I think the Flames saw the writing on the wall and said "no thanks" for the continued saga of Monahan's trajectory. Too much risk of injury, but Montreal may be able to utilize him and have their trainers work with him for a specific role.

Just my opinion.
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:50 AM   #133
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Sean will never be an impact player again. This is such an amazing offload. Holy cow.

I never said my view was rational!
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:50 AM   #134
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I'm nervous about what we gave up. The price tag for a guy with 1 year left shouldn't be that high.
Word is teams want a 1st from the Flyers to take on one more year of JVR at $7 mil. And JVR has been a much more productive player than Monahan the last two seasons (41 goals vs 18). Cap space is at a premium this off-season.
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:51 AM   #135
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I have a feeling this is also going to be a shocker of some kind. Something significant coming back.
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Rather give up a first than Pelletier. Flames will need cheap contracts to fill the team and he is looking close to ready.
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:51 AM   #137
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And that is exactly what it is:

Kadri $7M for Monahan $6.35M + 1st

(assuming the 1st is in fact what is going back)
Well yes I pieced that together. But it was two separate deals and Lucic had a lot of smoke so it’s unsurprising that people will be initially rattled by the loss of a 1st and Monahan.
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Something coming back? It is Money Hands after all. He is an elite finisher.
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:51 AM   #139
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No specifics yet however: https://www.tsn.ca/calgary-flames-tr...iens-1.1838109
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I’m going to guess we had to include Florida’s 1st to move Monahan.
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