Fire & Ice Girls: Sexist Anachronism?

[burn_this_city]

Pretty sure this site barely breaks even.. Bingo, when are we getting an invite to your yacht christening?

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Stanathan

I'm not sure if CP members choose to ignore it or not, but the amount of advertising on CP is astounding and I imagine it comes with 6 figures of annual revenue and if not, very close to it. I don't think you just want to be telling CP members you don't need them because I'm sure these paying advertisers are expecting a certain amount of hits etc.

This forum may once have been a place where the owner and the mods made decisions based on honest ethics and principles and the desire to provide a great place for sports fans to come together, but with this amount of money involved, things like the YLYL thread going away are likely happening to try and reach new demographics to increase revenue.

I can't say any of this is certain or true, but when significant amounts money are involved, I have a hard time believing that the decisions are genuinely made for the benefit of society and not for the benefit of the owners' pockets.

Obviously if I had a huge issue with it, I wouldn't be a member here and I am completely on board with the forum making money any way it can. I just don't buy all the cuddly crap and and I get a good chuckle at it because I feel money is corrupting the genuine nature of the recent decisions.

9 month rollercoaster up in here.

[saillias]

Forums don't generate profit. Ads help pay server costs.

[Stanathan]

Oh yeah, server costs are huge...

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Pretty sure this site barely breaks even.. Bingo, when are we getting an invite to your yacht christening?

6 figures................6 FIGURES!

[Stanathan]

UCB, it's a lot of money where a lot of the benefit and content for CP members is provided by the members, not the owners.

[burn_this_city]

The mods should have Scrooge McDuck avatars.

[cDnStealth]

Well obviously everyone on CP makes 6 figures so it's only logical for CP itself to generate a 6 figure income.

[Stanathan]

LMAO, friggen' guys....

[CaptainCrunch]

CP clearly got rich enough to buy monkeys to handle their money because its awesome

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Stanathan

UCB, it's a lot of money where a lot of the benefit and content for CP members is provided by the members, not the owners.

First let me be clear, I don't believe your numbers.


Second if you numbers are correct good for Bingo.


Third if you don't like it create a rival to CP. If you are to be believed it should be profitable, as many on here don't like what is happening on the site.


Fourth, profit?

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Well, if they do it in Russia, it's gotta be okay. There's few better countries in which to be a woman, after all.

I believe you have missed the point of my post. I didn't realize posting information about how things are done Ina similar league meant I supported or condoned the matter at hand. Or that I support the fact that Russian men abuse women because I show that in the KHL, they have this as a form of in game entertainment.

I also don't need to be told about the struggles of a female, especially with regards to domestic violence.

[Stanathan]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

First let me be clear, I don't believe your numbers.


Second if you numbers are correct good for Bingo.


Third if you don't like it create a rival to CP. If you are to be believed it should be profitable, as many on here don't like what is happening on the site.


Fourth, profit?

I didn't say I didn't like it.

Obviously if I had a huge issue with it, I wouldn't be a member here and I am completely on board with the forum making money any way it can. I just don't buy all the cuddly crap and and I get a good chuckle at it because I feel money is corrupting the genuine nature of the recent decisions.

I very clearly said I am completely on board with it. Geez, sometimes poor reading comprehension sure makes for grumpy undercoverbrothers.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Stanathan

I very clearly said I am completely on board with it. Geez, sometimes poor reading comprehension sure makes for grumpy undercoverbrothers.

So you are just pissing and moaning about for the sake of it.....

[RyZ]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

So you are just pissing and moaning about for the sake of it.....

We are getting really, really good at that on this board.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Stanathan

I'm not sure if CP members choose to ignore it or not, but the amount of advertising on CP is astounding and I imagine it comes with 6 figures of annual revenue and if not, very close to it.

Bwahahahahahaaaa!!!

Advertising on forums and advertising on a regular site with the same traffic is like comparing apples and dishwashers. Sure a forum generates lots of hits, but it's the same small group of people over and over.

Originally Posted by Stanathan

I don't think you just want to be telling CP members you don't need them because I'm sure these paying advertisers are expecting a certain amount of hits etc.

He's not telling all CP members we don't need them, he's telling one CP member that can't understand he's walking uninvited into someone else's house and complaining about the carpet. I would say and Bingo I'm sure would agree, that we don't want posters who can't abide by the rules without complaining about them.

Originally Posted by Stanathan

but with this amount of money involved, things like the YLYL thread going away are likely happening to try and reach new demographics to increase revenue.

*more laughter*

Incorrect premises lead to incorrect conclusions. Search all the threads in the mod area discussing rule changes, and you'll never find any of them concerned one iota with trying to change the rules to increase increase revenue. Bingo's not ever handed down a directive to change how things are done to serve driving revenue.

Originally Posted by Stanathan

I can't say any of this is certain or true, but when significant amounts money are involved, I have a hard time believing that the decisions are genuinely made for the benefit of society and not for the benefit of the owners' pockets.

I can say for certain that the narrative you've imagined it isn't true. Or are you saying I'm lying?

Originally Posted by Stanathan

I just don't buy all the cuddly crap and and I get a good chuckle at it because I feel money is corrupting the genuine nature of the recent decisions.

Well your feelings are wrong. All the discussions about any rule changes and policy changes involved people who get exactly $0. The mods and admins are all volunteers who do it because they see value in the site and community.

Originally Posted by Stanathan

Oh yeah, server costs are huge...

Define huge. $5 a month on Dreamhost isn't going to cut it...

[Chill Cosby]

I do find it quite interesting that the first person in the thread to say that people were overreacting and acting offended was actually the first person to act offended and overreact accordingly.

Perhaps the question should be posed the other way: Can't a group of people have a conversation regarding the morality of certain things without someone coming in and screaming bloody murder about things being too PC? It's just a conversation. Both sides should be presented, but it doesn't help anyone to call the "other" side ridiculous or to grossly exaggerate the conversation being had to fit your own agenda.

I'm not sensing any moments where people were offended before the anti-PC crowd interjected with how offended people were, nor any moment where anybody had to walk on egg shells to remain appropriate until someone came in and talked about how important it was to walk on egg shells.

I certainly don't feel like the idea of the F&I girls are sexist or wrong and while plenty of people had differing opinions, at no point didn't I feel that anyone was making an affront to my opinion or acting "too PC."

[Locke]

....unlike CP's ad revenue...

[nik-]

Originally Posted by photon

Bwahahahahahaaaa!!!

*1%'er speak*

Whatever, moneybags.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Barbecue

1. Fair enough
2. Hardly a "gross exaggeration". It is what it is, the direction of the changes is now egg shell walking and you know I'm not the only one that feels that way but i'll probably be the only one that states it

If you feel like you have to walk on egg shells now it is probably because in the past you said a lot of stuff that was inappropriate and/or offensive.

So if guys like that are having to tread more carefully. Good.