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[jammies]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

Libertarian utopia? Only people oblivious to what "libertarian" means can claim Somalia is (getting) anywhere close.

Only people oblivious to humour can take a comparison between Somalia and the Edmonton Oilers seriously.

I'm well aware of what "libertarian" is, btw. That a self-professed libertarian can't articulate the difference between that and the anarchy in Somalia is ever more humorous the more times the opportunity arises and is not seized. Admitting that government is necessary and vital must hurt so much, though, that it's hardly surprising - how can one continually screech about the evils of government interference with the citizenry on one hand, and yet concede that government interference to some degree is necessary on the other?

You will, of course, refute me with an erudite discussion of the theory of government in a libertarian society, not neglecting to explain how economic externalities will be mitigated sans the regulation by and coercion of state power. You will then proceed to show how the lack of central control in a failed state is completely different than the lack of central control in a ideal libertarian state, and why the former never naturally evolves into the latter, despite its obvious and manifest superiority.

Then, for extra marks, you will show how nomadic herdsmen are using the free market to become entrepeneurs and businessmen (aka "pirates") that are lifting themselves out of poverty by their own efforts, and not relying on a suffocating nanny-state that would merely forbid them their creative and successful business model.

Or, maybe you won't - because you can't.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Actually it appears to be you who cannot stand opposing views and you who without any facts can read minds over the Internet. You are wrong.

I had a prof who I thought crossed the line in regards to abortion and I did not like the fact people who were against were told they were wrong, end of story. I was pro choice, yet disgusted by some of what I saw regarding the bias againt pro lifers. You see the results today, you are either pro choice or basically an outcast. I saw similar things in other areas as well. And wouldn't you know it, I was not the only person to notice and we now see assorted coverage of this.

Anyway, I preferred the sciences, and even there you can see blatant attempts to trivialize counter arguments.

My point is that law school is about learning how to analyze and respond to those types of positions, not treat them as attempted indoctrination. That's something you'd have found if you'd really looked into what it's about, instead of basing it upon a freshman year experience.

I had a law school professor (you still seem to be talking about an undergrad class, and the undergrad study of law has very little to do with law school) who I generally aligned with politically, but who consistently took things way too far. For instance, she equated the Boy Scouts to the Nazi Party (Godwin'd an entire course) due to their stance on gay rights. I could laugh it off as being overboard, but for those who supported the Boy Scouts position it was clearly not so simple. Among that group, those who were able to think critically and not simply dismiss the position as some sort of forced indoctrination were able to counter that absurd claim with intelligent arguments. It eventually lead to a forced in class apology, not because the professor was pressured by administration, but because she couldn't defend her position in the face of an intelligent response.

Anyways, this is very off topic. Just saying that working through the bias you perceive is likely more valuable than dismissing something as indoctrination.

[Thor]

I just WISH the CBC could take lessons from the BBC, which has a ton of great Radio channels, TV channels, and the BEST documentaries in the world.

If nothing, I wish BBC would take over the CBC and make the CBC worth caring about.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Thor

I just WISH the CBC could take lessons from the BBC, which has a ton of great Radio channels, TV channels, and the BEST documentaries in the world.

If nothing, I wish BBC would take over the CBC and make the CBC worth caring about.

By lessons do you mean the same amount of money the BBC gets to produce the best doxumentaries in the world? Somehow I don't think people who are already ant-CBC would be on board with that.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Thor

I just WISH the CBC could take lessons from the BBC, which has a ton of great Radio channels, TV channels, and the BEST documentaries in the world.

If nothing, I wish BBC would take over the CBC and make the CBC worth caring about.

Why on earth would the BBC take over the CBC?

Regardless they do have some pretty good docs. And there is Radio Q with Jian Ghomeshi.

I'll agree it's not quite the level of BBC, but I think people are starting to complain for complaining's sake.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by jammies

Only people oblivious to humour can take a comparison between Somalia and the Edmonton Oilers seriously.

I'm well aware of what "libertarian" is, btw. That a self-professed libertarian can't articulate the difference between that and the anarchy in Somalia is ever more humorous the more times the opportunity arises and is not seized. Admitting that government is necessary and vital must hurt so much, though, that it's hardly surprising - how can one continually screech about the evils of government interference with the citizenry on one hand, and yet concede that government interference to some degree is necessary on the other?

You will, of course, refute me with an erudite discussion of the theory of government in a libertarian society, not neglecting to explain how economic externalities will be mitigated sans the regulation by and coercion of state power. You will then proceed to show how the lack of central control in a failed state is completely different than the lack of central control in a ideal libertarian state, and why the former never naturally evolves into the latter, despite its obvious and manifest superiority.

Then, for extra marks, you will show how nomadic herdsmen are using the free market to become entrepeneurs and businessmen (aka "pirates") that are lifting themselves out of poverty by their own efforts, and not relying on a suffocating nanny-state that would merely forbid them their creative and successful business model.

Or, maybe you won't - because you can't.

lol

I linked a study that refutes your original baseless claim and the best you can do is go on a mindless tirade on a subject you are hopelessly clueless about?

[jammies]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

I linked a study that refutes your original baseless claim and the best you can do is go on a mindless tirade on a subject you are hopelessly clueless about?

Yeah, that's what I thought. You can't explain how libertarianism and anarchy aren't quite the same thing (which I'm not claiming they are, btw), nor why anarchy never leads to libertarianism, despite the many similarities. I think I've asked you a couple times in the past about your libertarian beliefs, but you never seem to come up with anything, probably because you don't really know what you think, you just know what you don't like about what other people think.

Also, you still lack a sense of humor. You missed your opportunity to explain how piracy is not free enterprise, though - I imagined you'd enjoy yourself posting a link to refute that, considering you thought it necessary to refute how the "last-place" Somalians resemble the "last place" Edmonton Oilers, but maybe you actually think piracy *is* free enterprise.

PS: You do realize the Somali "economy" is a pastoral one, right? That the Somalis have a few more cows than they had a decade ago is hardly basis for projecting their imminent economic domination of Africa, much as a few #1 draft picks is not going to help the Oilers take the NW conference title next year.

PPS: That's another ridiculous hockey analogy, btw. Don't get too hung up on it.

PPPS: You also forgot to point out the Oilers aren't actually in last place this year, either.