[Rumour] McKenzie: Gaudreau & Flames are closing gap, but it's still a considerable gap.

[Vinny01]

They can also paper send Bennett down to free up some cap space correct?

[FlamesAddiction]

On what day do teams have to be cap compliant?

[Poe969]

I thought you were allowed to spend beyond the cap in the off season. Either way it's dumb, smid won't play so the flames should have the cap space now.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

On what day do teams have to be cap compliant?

Tuesday.

[AC]

If that's the holdup, it'd explain the rumours of us trying to pay to unload Smid now as opposed to just wait for LTIR.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by AC

@RyanNPike
With the current group of players in camp, #Flames have about $6.633m in cap space (2G, D7, 13F).

@RyanNPike
Even if they send Vey ($700k) down, it'll be REALLY tough for #Flames to sign Gaudreau without LTIR for Smid.

Silver lining maybe the Flames have to wait until LTIR for Gaudreau's deal getting announced?

they can also send down Kulak and either recall him or sign Grossmann on opening day.

[kingkahuna]

So what if the economy goes though deflation? Has anybody thought of that???

[AC]

Originally Posted by kingkahuna

So what if the economy goes though deflation? Has anybody thought of that???

I'm sure the Flames owners will get by.

[Gaudreauvertime]

I don't mean to sound all negative, but I'm starting to get a really bad feeling about this whole situation, even worse than before. I get the feeling that the talks didn't go well. The fact that they still aren't close after a whole week of face to face meetings makes me think Calgary is completely stuck on this Gio cap nonsense. Then add in comments from TSN (Button and Ferraro) that makes it sound like a trade request might be not too far away.

Do we know if Burke was on the trip with Treliving? I really hope not. He's a loose cannon and could completely destroy the relationship with the Gaudreau family.

I hope I'm wrong. But I'm just not feeling there is more uncertainty than ever about Johnny's future in Calgary.

[sureLoss]

Flames could also send down Sam Bennett temporarily to get $925k in cap space until Smid is put on LTIR.

[getbak]

If Gaudreau isn't signed, they're nowhere near the cap. They need to have him signed in order to put Smid on LTIR.

[VilleN]

I would doubt that his RFA years would be over 6.5m per year, so that shouldn't be a problem. I'm sure they could easily structure the contract so that they would be below 6.633m this year.


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[Cole436]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

I don't mean to sound all negative, but I'm starting to get a really bad feeling about this whole situation, even worse than before. I get the feeling that the talks didn't go well. The fact that they still aren't close after a whole week of face to face meetings makes me think Calgary is completely stuck on this Gio cap nonsense. Then add in comments from TSN (Button and Ferraro) that makes it sound like a trade request might be not too far away.

Do we know if Burke was on the trip with Treliving? I really hope not. He's a loose cannon and could completely destroy the relationship with the Gaudreau family.

I hope I'm wrong. But I'm just not feeling there is more uncertainty than ever about Johnny's future in Calgary.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

I don't mean to sound all negative, but I'm starting to get a really bad feeling about this whole situation, even worse than before.

Shocker

[AC]

Originally Posted by VilleN

I would doubt that his RFA years would be over 6.5m per year, so that shouldn't be a problem. I'm sure they could easily structure the contract so that they would be below 6.633m this year.


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Cap hit is the average annual value over the entire contract. Doesn't matter what his actual salary is for this first year to fit under the cap, its the AAV which will exceed $6.633 if he's signing 7 or 8 years.

[Par]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

I don't mean to sound all negative, but I'm starting to get a really bad feeling about this whole situation, even worse than before. I get the feeling that the talks didn't go well. The fact that they still aren't close after a whole week of face to face meetings makes me think Calgary is completely stuck on this Gio cap nonsense. Then add in comments from TSN (Button and Ferraro) that makes it sound like a trade request might be not too far away.

Do we know if Burke was on the trip with Treliving? I really hope not. He's a loose cannon and could completely destroy the relationship with the Gaudreau family.

I hope I'm wrong. But I'm just not feeling there is more uncertainty than ever about Johnny's future in Calgary.

If that were to happen and the Islanders came looking for Gaudreau would you take Strome, Pulock, Barzal and a first round pick in the 2017 or the 2018 draft?

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Par

If that were to happen and the Islanders came looking for Gaudreau would you take Strome, Pulock, Barzal and a first round pick in the 2017 or the 2018 draft?

He's a Devils fan. He doesn't care how badly we get fleeced.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Par

If that were to happen and the Islanders came looking for Gaudreau would you take Strome, Pulock, Barzal and a first round pick in the 2017 or the 2018 draft?

No

[Par]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

No

Than what would be a good offer?

[HarryH93]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Remember Friedman when he said he was talking to BT and he paused and "wanted" to say something, then didn't. That's good.

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

I'm not sure it necessarily is good. Could mean good things or terrible things

I think EF was referring to when he asked BT about the "Flames haven't contacted us in a month" comment Gross made. I don't think it was about the negotiations in general.