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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Well, I don't consider myself a troll, and that is all that matters.

Actually no, what matters is if the moderators think you are a troll. You can be completely innocent but if you act like a troll you will still be banned.

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Sorry I was never on the debate team gozer.......and that I do not meet your standards. Maybe you could hang out at a super-formal board somewhere where every word and argument is picked to death. But I like to have a little fun you know.

They're not Gozer's standards, they're the normal standards of normal discussion by normal people.

"Dude, I can fly!"

"Whatever, prove it."

"Sorry, I didn't do well on the debate team, I don't have to prove it."

This kind of behavior if it's constant can be seen as trolling, because basically it allows the poster to make whatever claims they want and not have to back them up. If you are posting inflammatory things "just to have fun", then that's definitely trolling.

If you can't support what you are posting, don't post it.

Because otherwise everyone knows where trolling (intentional or not) eventually ends up.

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Maybe instead of bitching about the "low bar" around here, you just keep your mouth shut and participate in other threads........I just see some people here like to take the safe route and pile on someone and try to make them look foolish. That is easy to do from behind a monitor. I was just trying to deflect a little of the unfair posts toward Tower........I guess I did a good job of that.

Tower can take care of himself, he doesn't need a babysitter. And Gozer is trying to HELP you out, by telling you how to look less foolish, to make your posts more substantive, and stick around longer.

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Gozer...........if I was like DESS I would not be here anymore. I may not be good at this debating thing, but I try to be honest.

Honesty isn't always enough.

[CaptainCrunch]

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Tower

Nor are you responsible too. It is up to each individual to work out his actions. You believe and that is what matters. there are others who do not believe and that is what matters to them.

Sorry buddy, one of the most basic tennents of any law system, be it statute, common, or hell, even scientific, is that it isn't what you believe, it's what you can prove.

Just because you believe something doesn't make it so.

[Tower]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Gozer...........if I was like DESS I would not be here anymore. I may not be good at this debating thing, but I try to be honest.

The best course of action in debating I've found recently (I'm awful as well) is to just talk about what you believe. I've been wrong and when I am and felt I am I don't shy away. I've apologized to people if I used offensive language toward them and not toward the issue. So to fix that, I use the high road. Most on here try to lure your anger by teasing/bullying but if you stand your ground and post what you believe it does not matter what others think. Now I find them quite funny. It's a good way to find peace and calm. There are more on this site who believe in what is being talked about through me and yourself but I doubt any would come out with the lashing these people would receive. What you do (a specially on a website many seem to hold dear including myself) here is brave. It takes some guts to loose something you do not want to loose. The admin have not banned you for your different thoughts, and that is a good sign of a site that can admin well.

[Tower]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Are..........you.............serious?

Well, I should clear that up. He is not responsible to go through a whole movie to quote what was said... He did say where it was from and that should be enough... If the other poster is interested then so be it. He/she can watch it. Sorry for the lack of clarity... lol

[Bagor]

Don't know if it's already been asked ......

But WTF is the point of the footage of a young dancer in front of what is obviously not, or in anywhere close to 10 downing street?

"the following footage was filmed on the 13th July outside Downing Street (Prime Minister's residence)

Ermmm ...... no it wasn't.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Tower

Well, I should clear that up. Responsible to go through a whole movie to quote what was said... He did say where it was from and that should be enough... If the other poster is interested then so be it. He/she can watch it. Sorry for the lack of clarity... lol

Wrong. At the very least, using the awesome source that is Zeitgeist , provide a link and a time range. No one is sitting through an hour of crap to get to 4 minutes of crap to refute crap.

Very simple...link..."watch from 26:50-30:50"

[Tower]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Sorry buddy, one of the most basic tennents of any law system, be it statute, common, or hell, even scientific, is that it isn't what you believe, it's what you can prove.

Just because you believe something doesn't make it so.

Really? Not innocent till proven guilty?

You're saying guilty till proven innocent!

I don't care if people here do not believe the money system is fake and extremely compromised. The ones who wish to use it to their advantage get the reward. The others can make fun of him. Who here is really laughing.

It was said earlier by me about paying gas with from a request of a TRUE BILL.

Me? I have no issues with this. I own the gas already. It was taken from my land by a foreign nation and sold back to me... You do what you want to do about it.

Same with forestry and our housing.

heating for your house.

Electrical.

Groceries.

PC is a bank now. They know what to do with a True bill signed by you. They will get their money.

[Tower]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Don't know if it's already been asked ......

But WTF is the point of the footage of a young dancer in front of what is obviously not, or in anywhere close to 10 downing street?

"the following footage was filmed on the 13th July outside Downing Street (Prime Minister's residence)

Ermmm ...... no it wasn't.

It was a poor choice but not everyone is a good editor. He just needed B-Roll.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Tower

Really? Not innocent till proven guilty?

You're saying guilty till proven innocent!

Noooooo. He's saying try to prove your outlandish claims! Jesus man, are you just totally out to lunch or just screwing with people to get a reaction?

Let's use an example:

Me: If you eat grapes and raspberry jam every day, you can shoot gold bricks out of your ass! I believe it, so it's true.

Common sense person: Can you provide any proof of this?

Me: I don't have to, I believe it. Innocent until proven guilty, right?

Common sense person: No, that doesn't even apply here. No one is assigning guilt or blame, simply asking for proof of your claim that you possess a magical gold blasting sphincter.

Me: I'm going to ignore that and move on to another nonsensical point.

Common sense person: Enjoy living in lala land.

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Originally Posted by Tower

Really? Not innocent till proven guilty?

You're saying guilty till proven innocent!

No, exactly the opposite. If someone makes a claim that you killed someone, until that positive claim can be substantiated the claim is empty, so you are innocent. If the claim has evidence, then you can be shown to be guilty.

Claims require substantiation.

[Barnes]

Is this thread in English? Do I need a tin foil hat to get this?

What's wrong with President's Choice? Gaylen Weston seems legit. He makes a hellova Pad Thai.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Tower

Really? Not innocent till proven guilty?

You're saying guilty till proven innocent!

.

Dude, that's the most ######ed thing I've ever heard. Go ahead, tell me I'm making personal attacks, I don't care.

The fact is I never said anything of the sort. I said with any system of law, there is a burden of proof.

In ours we are presumed innocent untill someone can prove otherwise.

My point was that you're here spouting about how we can all stop paying taxes for some reason, and then when asked to provide some sort of proof, even anecdotal in the form that this has worked for you, you come back with, I believe it, you can if you want too, but I won't provide you with any proof beyond my initial completely unsuported statement. How you construed my request for you to prove that your completely asinine position is valid, as an advocation of guilty until proven innocent, is just another example of the complete lack of any substance to your argument, or any other argument you've made on this board to date.

I don't want to show you proof, is universally accepted as the equivalent of I don't have any proof.

Please just take your ball and go home.

[Bob]

The fail in this thread is bad enough, but this one on Beyond.ca (linked earlier) was just brutal. There aren't enough facepalms for the crap spewed over there.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by Tower

I don't care if people here do not believe the money system is fake and extremely compromised.

You SHOULD care, because fiat currency is one of those things that if you believe in it, it IS true. That's just one of the things you entirely fail to grasp. If everyone agrees that a toonie can buy you a slurpee, obtuse ranting on the internet doesn't change that I can still go into 7-11 and buy a frickin' slurpee with a toonie, nor does it change the fact that if you go into 7-11 and try to take a slurpee, ask for a "true bill" (or whatever stupid contract you talk about) and then exit without paying, you're committing petty theft as defined by the law - including the "common law", which I wish we still followed rigorously so you could be put in the stocks for your crime and could no longer get at the Internet.

The idea that you can define how the world works to suit yourself is at the back of all your concepts, and it is this fundamental assertion which is wrong, wrong, wrong. The world is as it is. Accept and understand it first before attempting to change it.

[Titan]

Does anyone else picture Tower standing on a hill in a robe? With a staff in his hand and lightning behind him?

[jar_e]

Isn't speeding in Alberta against section 115 of the Traffic Safety ACT of Alberta?

So we can speed all we want?!?!?!?!!? Yeah good luck with fighting that in court.

[Tower]

Originally Posted by jammies

You SHOULD care, because fiat currency is one of those things that if you believe in it, it IS true. That's just one of the things you entirely fail to grasp. If everyone agrees that a toonie can buy you a slurpee, obtuse ranting on the internet doesn't change that I can still go into 7-11 and buy a frickin' slurpee with a toonie, nor does it change the fact that if you go into 7-11 and try to take a slurpee, ask for a "true bill" (or whatever stupid contract you talk about) and then exit without paying, you're committing petty theft as defined by the law - including the "common law", which I wish we still followed rigorously so you could be put in the stocks for your crime and could no longer get at the Internet.

The idea that you can define how the world works to suit yourself is at the back of all your concepts, and it is this fundamental assertion which is wrong, wrong, wrong. The world is as it is. Accept and understand it first before attempting to change it.

Ha ha ha ha.... What IS that Toonie?

What is it backed buy? If a bank can create money out of thin air then why can't anyone? What is the difference? Both has a corporation and one is a corporation. I have not defined anything. It is defined in the bills and exchange act. Just becuse YOU choose to abide with what YOU are told does not mean anyone else does. The PPSA info I stated earlier in another thread is a great example. The fact that it IS gibberish outside Law Society is what IS wrong with this world. Common Law uses Common Tounge and eveyone can Stand Under it.

Like I said earlier.... I don't need a toonie... And THAT feels great.

Once more people understand the BS that most have chosen to accept the better. We are in a spiral fall paying debt notes with debt notes. It's not our doing that created this... But I sure don't feel like paying 400 a month to heat a small house in a few years after Uber Inflation kicks in... We have our wonderful "PTB" to thank for this. I'm not fixing their mess. I'm leaving it for them to swim in.

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by Tower

Ha ha ha ha.... What IS that Toonie?

What is it backed buy? If a bank can create money out of thin air then why can't anyone? What is the difference? Both has a corporation and one is a corporation. I have not defined anything. It is defined in the bills and exchange act. Just becuse YOU choose to abide with what YOU are told does not mean anyone else does. The PPSA info I stated earlier in another thread is a great example. The fact that it IS gibberish outside Law Society is what IS wrong with this world. Common Law uses Common Tounge and eveyone can Stand Under it.

Like I said earlier.... I don't need a toonie... And THAT feels great.

Once more people understand the BS that most have chosen to accept the better. We are in a spiral fall paying debt notes with debt notes. It's not our doing that created this... But I sure don't feel like paying 400 a month to heat a small house in a few years after Uber Inflation kicks in... We have our wonderful "PTB" to thank for this. I'm not fixing their mess. I'm leaving it for them to swim in.

Is your avatar suppose to be tongue in cheek? Have you tried this? You're becoming that shady car salesman who tries to upsells everything but would never buy a single thing he's selling.

[ResAlien]

Resalien: Tower, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

My thanks to Billy Madison.