2007 NFL Training Camp & Preseason Thread

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I think 11-5 is realistic. With a healthy McNabb, this team is arguably the best team in the conference. If McNabb goes down again, Feely has shown he is a capable backup and the team might be able to eke out a wildcard spot.



The Giants will battle Washington for third place and will probably lose. They are a bad team.

There is always a team that comes from nowhere. Everyone always picks the 8 division winners from last year, and generally are about right only 3 or 4 times.

Actually there is a good theme. Who are the 8 winners:

NE
PITT
IND
SD
STL
CAR
NYG
CHI

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

There is always a team that comes from nowhere. Everyone always picks the 8 division winners from last year, and generally are about right only 3 or 4 times.

Well the Giants aren't exactly "coming from nowhere" as they were a WC team last year. They just have way too many holes on defense that have been accentuated by injuries in preseason. The O-line is still brutal and Eli will continue to struggle behind it. On defense, the D-line is the only strong point, the LBs are average at best, and the secondary is brutal.

Overall, New York was the one team in the NFC East that did absolutely nothing to improve its weakspots in the offseason.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Well the Giants aren't exactly "coming from nowhere" as they were a WC team last year. They just have way too many holes on defense that have been accentuated by injuries in preseason. The O-line is still brutal and Eli will continue to struggle behind it. On defense, the D-line is the only strong point, the LBs are average at best, and the secondary is brutal.

Overall, New York was the one team in the NFC East that did absolutely nothing to improve its weakspots in the offseason.

I agree with some of this and hence how they will come from nowhere.

The giants are not great, but Philly is aging and their QB is made of glass, Washington is mismanaged beyond belief and Dallas is a bit of a wildcard. People now have film on Romo, I don't see him leading a team to a division championship anytime soon.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

I agree with some of this and hence how they will come from nowhere.

The giants are not great, but Philly is aging and their QB is made of glass, Washington is mismanaged beyond belief and Dallas is a bit of a wildcard. People now have film on Romo, I don't see him leading a team to a division championship anytime soon.

Guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Guess we'll have to wait and see.

Enough judging me, let's see your 8, and anyone else's. Would be interesting to see how others think 07 will play out.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

Enough judging me, let's see your 8, and anyone else's. Would be interesting to see how others think 07 will play out.

NE
Bal
Indy
SD
Phi
Det
NO
SF

[moon]

SD
INDY
PITT
NE

CHI
SEA
NO
PHI

I think it could easily be Philly, Dallas or NYG. Each has such big questions at the QB position. I gave it to Philly because they have by far the best coach but if McNabb goes down I they are done and even if he is healthy I am not sure they are better than the other two.

[transplant99]

Chargers
Patriots
Colts
Bengals

Bears
Saints
Eagles
Rams

[burn_baby_burn]

NE
Tennessee
SD
Pittsburgh

SF
Chicago
Dallas
NO

I think the Colts will have a tough time making the playoffs. Seems alot of teams have a tough time at making the playoffs recently after they win the Super Bowl the previous season.

[flames_1987]

Colts ( I think they will struggle though for a good chunk of this year, but nobody else in the AFC South still scares me at all)
New England
Baltimore
San Diego
WC- Denver
WC- Bengals

Cowboys
Bears
Panthers
Seattle
WC- Saints
WC- 49ers

[Sylvanfan]

Chargers
Steelers
Colts
Patriots
WC Broncos
WC Ravens

Seahawks
Bears
Saints
Eagles
WC Cowboys
WC Panthers

[Sylvanfan]

http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/news_story/?ID=216865&hubname=

Chiefs name Huard as their starting QB. Probably the right thing to do as Croyle is struggling too much in the preseason and the O-Line and running game is a bit AWOL. Huard although a backup is pretty experienced and has been effective when called on. Probably the better guy to steer the ship in hopes that the rest of the unit will come together a bit. The Chiefs are going to need their defence to keep them in games and make plays and hope Huard can run an oppurtunistic mistake free offence. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see the Chiefs try Croyle later in the season if they have a slow start record wise. IMO Croyle is still their guy for the future, but if they want to try and win now Huard is the guy to start off with.

[Saint Troy]

Chargers
Ravens
Colts
Patriots
WC Broncos
WC Steelers

Seahawks
Bears
Saints
Cowboys
WC Eagles
WC Rams

[Flames in 07]

Not that the preseason is interesting, but starting in week 3 games start to become a little more useful as starters play further into the game, the teams to me that made statements are:

New Orleans
Houston
Seattle
New England
KC (be it a bad statement)

speaking of KC they just released that Huard will be their starting QB in week 1. Croyle has a first rounder wife, but a 3rd rounder arm and 5th rounder decision making skills at this point.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

So release one aging linebacker with knee problems for another one with back problems?
Unless DFF can straighten the record about Al Wilson. I think they are both great football players, but that just seems like such a lateral move for the team.
Wonder where Trotter will sign now?

I don't know what's up with Al. I keep expecting to see the Broncos sign him for the league minimum because he hasn't signed anywhere else.

He doesn't have back problems...he had a neck injury..and I'm not sure he's cleared to play either.

I love that guy. One of the greatest leaders the Broncos have ever had and a fantastic linebacker to boot.

[Displaced Flames fan]

My playoff teams at this point...

New England
Pittsburgh
Indinanpolis
San Diego
WC#1-Denver
WC#2-Cincinatti

Philadelphia
New Orleans
Chicago
Seattle
Wild Card #1-Dallas
Wild Card #2-San Francisco

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

I don't know what's up with Al. I keep expecting to see the Broncos sign him for the league minimum because he hasn't signed anywhere else.

He doesn't have back problems...he had a neck injury..and I'm not sure he's cleared to play either.

I love that guy. One of the greatest leaders the Broncos have ever had and a fantastic linebacker to boot.

Agreed, Al Wilson has been my favorite definsive player in the last 10 years.

I still remember him stuffing that Oakland back (was it Ritchie?) in mid air on 4th and 1 on Sunday night football. And remember he was a huge leader back to his UT days.

I suspect that at some point you have enough money and enough hits and injuries that you just say screw it, I'm watching TV on Sundays instead. The NFL is such a grind both physically and mentally ... that and having the begeezus scared out of you right after a neck injury might be enough to just pack it in.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

Agreed, Al Wilson has been my favorite definsive player in the last 10 years.

I still remember him stuffing that Oakland back (was it Ritchie?) in mid air on 4th and 1 on Sunday night football. And remember he was a huge leader back to his UT days.

I suspect that at some point you have enough money and enough hits and injuries that you just say screw it, I'm watching TV on Sundays instead. The NFL is such a grind both physically and mentally ... that and having the begeezus scared out of you right after a neck injury might be enough to just pack it in.

Agreed, but I don't think that's the case with Al. Last I had heard he and his agent were actively shopping his services around the league. That could've changed though.

[RyZ]

New England
Indinanpolis
San Diego
Baltimore
WC#1-Denver
WC#2-Cincinatti

New Orleans
Chicago
Dallas
Seattle
Wild Card #1-Philly
Wild Card #2-San Francisco

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I think 11-5 is realistic. With a healthy McNabb, this team is arguably the best team in the conference. If McNabb goes down again, Feely has shown he is a capable backup and the team might be able to eke out a wildcard spot.

The only reason I say 11-5 is factoring the injuries in. If McNabb plays 16 games I honestly think they can win 12-13 games. And with him missing a few games, like you said, Feely is a capable backup in the Eagles offense. Their offensive line, combined with arguably the most versatile back in the league in Westbrook, is enough to keep them competitive on the offensive side of the ball without a full season of McNabb. I'll be interested to see what the LB core looks like this year. Spikes is a big addition, and now with Gaither starting at MLB it gives them a entirely new look. The secondary of the Eagles is their strength, and even with an aging Dawkins they are probably one of the best in the NFL.

Bunkley having a good first full season as starting DT will be a big thing to watch for me. If he can shore up the middle of that D-line, an area where the Eagles have traditionally struggled, then their defense will be that much better. I really like the defensive end depth with Kearse healthy again, and Trent Cole ready to become an impact defender.

While age an injuries will be factors on both sides of the ball, I surely think that it's the Eagles division to lose. I agree the Giants have regressed if anything this offseason, and in Dallas with Roma having a full year to run the Cowboys offense......will probably be the Eagles' closest competition.

San Diego
New England
Indianapolis
Baltimore


Philadelphia
New Orleans
Chicago
Seattle