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Old 04-14-2018, 12:34 PM   #101
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I mean a lot of actual disaster franchise stories in terms of fan support can be directly correlated with an inability to show them anything to get excited about on the ice for years, sometimes a decade+.

Look at Columbus, a hockey-ish (not sunbelt) market with incredible, jubilant initial support (straight sellouts for a couple years I think), just eroded year after year with nothing happening to the point where 11-13k became the average.
Absolutely. When you think about it, the idea of expansion franchises sucking balls for years, is terrible for the league (any league).

The NHL got it totally right this time - give the expansion team much more to work with, so that they can build fan support. And if you do that, you can also charge the expansion team more for entry.

But let's keep something else in mind: Vegas was the LONE expansion team, which is unusual. Had there been two teams fighting over the expansion draft scraps, it is a certainty that both teams would have been basement dwellers.
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I watched through the first OT before I had to hit the hay, and that extra period was so much fun.

Hockey is so enjoyable when played well. I miss that.
Oooh.....that was savage.

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Old 04-15-2018, 10:34 AM   #104
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Why isnt he on the team bus?
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Why isnt he on the team bus?
I don't think players take a team bus to the airport in their own city do they? Pretty sure the Flames have always gone there themselves and then they bus together once they're in the road city.

Otherwise they'd have to leave their vehicles at the rink.

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I don't think players take a team bus to the airport in their own city do they? Pretty sure the Flames have always gone there themselves and then they bus together once their in the road city.

Otherwise they'd have to leave their vehicles at the rink.
Maybe Engelland wants to drive his awesome car through the desert to LA for the game!
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Maybe Engelland wants to drive his awesome car through the desert to LA for the game!
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Vegas sweep.
Looking prophetic.

Still another game(s) to play.
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I think LA was probably on their way down sooner into a rebuild. Stevens came in as a fresh change (not saying he's not a great coach, he probably is) and likely got one more year of success, but I bet we see a steeper slide next season out of the playoffs and then selling off of a couple aging stars.

Of course missing Muzzin and Doughty for game 2 isn't easy, either.
LA had a hot start this season...in 2018 their record is basically the same as the Flames who were terrible down the stretch.

They are certainly trending downward...I bet you are right
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That's awesome. Looks like he hates it though. I think he smiled once.

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That's awesome. Looks like he hates it though. I think he smiled once.

Flower would give the people what they want.
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Looking prophetic.

Still another game(s) to play.
Lots of people in this thread took the Kings, and in some cases easily so. People have to remember that this isn't the same roster as a few years ago and it isn't Sutter behind the bench. Quick is covering up a lot of the problems with this roster.

Oh, and the Knights are for real, so people better get used to it.
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Knights have got to be one of the scariest teams in a long while. And not because of any one person, but somehow, the sum of the parts far exceeds the individual value. Some questioned if the magic juju would continue into the playoffs, and looks like it has, which has got to be terrifying for the rest of the West.

Watching them dismantle the Cup quality Kings has been fantastic hockey.
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Knights have got to be one of the scariest teams in a long while. And not because of any one person, but somehow, the sum of the parts far exceeds the individual value. Some questioned if the magic juju would continue into the playoffs, and looks like it has, which has got to be terrifying for the rest of the West.

Watching them dismantle the Cup quality Kings has been fantastic hockey.
Yeah, I think calling them the "Cup quality Kings" is a huge stretch. The Kings will probably not come close to playing for another Stanley Cup with this group.
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I'm sure Haula's butt-end probably hurt Kopitar. But I also think that this is one of several instances these playoffs where players are embellishing the play. Might be wrong, but Kopitar's reaction for the minute after the incident sure felt disingenuous to me.

Can't figure out how to imbed the stills. Here's the TSN video where you can see it. https://www.tsn.ca/kings-calling-for...nded-1.1058049

0:45 - smacks the right side of Kopitar's face
0:50 - Kopitar holding the left side of his face
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Old 04-16-2018, 09:23 AM   #117
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^ looked accidental but no way that didn’t hurt like hell.
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I'm sure Haula's butt-end probably hurt Kopitar. But I also think that this is one of several instances these playoffs where players are embellishing the play. Might be wrong, but Kopitar's reaction for the minute after the incident sure felt disingenuous to me.

Can't figure out how to imbed the stills. Here's the TSN video where you can see it. https://www.tsn.ca/kings-calling-for...nded-1.1058049

0:45 - smacks the right side of Kopitar's face
0:50 - Kopitar holding the left side of his face
I am not sure if it is true or not but Hrudy pointed this out in their intermission discussion saying that jaws work like that. If you get hit hard on one side of the jaw, the other side can take just as much or more of the impact and lots of times the other side is what breaks...
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I'm sure Haula's butt-end probably hurt Kopitar. But I also think that this is one of several instances these playoffs where players are embellishing the play. Might be wrong, but Kopitar's reaction for the minute after the incident sure felt disingenuous to me.

Can't figure out how to imbed the stills. Here's the TSN video where you can see it. https://www.tsn.ca/kings-calling-for...nded-1.1058049

0:45 - smacks the right side of Kopitar's face
0:50 - Kopitar holding the left side of his face
Didn't Hrudey talk about this during one of the intermissions? I recall him saying that it appeared as though Kopitar was experiencing pain on the other side of his jaw than where he was hit. He went on to say that this is a bad sign that he has probably broken something, and that this response is pretty common with severe jaw injuries.
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I am not sure if it is true or not but Hrudy pointed this out in their intermission discussion saying that jaws work like that. If you get hit hard on one side of the jaw, the other side can take just as much or more of the impact and lots of times the other side is what breaks...
This is exactly how my jaw broke.
The side opposite the impact cracked.
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