Recommend (or don't) a movie thread v2

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by photon

Make "It's a title rather than a specific individual" more formal, done.

Heck you could have a new origin story for a new person where they become a 00 agent and then assume the 007 title after some emotional thing that relates to the previous 007.

No more origin stories! Just make Bond movies(good ones, not bad ones).


I agree ignoring is the best option, but I doubt they go that way.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

I don't think a single Bond movie has ever integrated the previous movies when they changed the lead. Why would anyone expect that to change? Other than keeping Q (Desmond Llewelyn) and M (Judi Dench) I don't think anything has been consistent in the previous movies.

While true Bond has always been alive through the franchise, they never killed him, and as a character while his stunts and escapades have at times been a bit silly they have always kept the pretense of reality, he isnt Superman or even Batman, his stunts are (in theory) set in todays world with semi believable plots and stories, ordinary guns cars planes etc

[Coach]

Even if the filmmakers and companies involved say otherwise, I choose to believe that 007 - James Bond is a code name given to different agents who reach that status. It makes perfect sense and makes things much more interested IMO.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

I don't think a single Bond movie has ever integrated the previous movies when they changed the lead. Why would anyone expect that to change? Other than keeping Q (Desmond Llewelyn) and M (Judi Dench) I don't think anything has been consistent in the previous movies.

Bond’s marriage was referenced several times both directly and indirectly after On Her Majesty’s Secret Service.

Before Craig, the films were loosely connected but even then it was acknowledged when convenient and at other times totally ignored.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

I don't think a single Bond movie has ever integrated the previous movies when they changed the lead. Why would anyone expect that to change? Other than keeping Q (Desmond Llewelyn) and M (Judi Dench) I don't think anything has been consistent in the previous movies.

The only Bond movies that appear to have any continuity were the Daniel Craig ones (sometimes, stupidly).

It would be stupid to try to rationalize it "Somehow Bond returned"

[Cecil Terwilliger]

What we need is a Bond multiverse movie to explain all this. With star studded cameos! With AI when necessary for any of the actors that are dead now.

[Strange Brew]

I have always thought that every time a new actor is introduced, it is a brand new set of movies with a blank slate. Just keep the cool music, cars and catchphrases. No need to explain anything.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

What we need is a Bond multiverse movie to explain all this. With star studded cameos! With AI when necessary for any of the actors that are dead now.

Bring back Timothy Dalton!

[Fuzz]

Bond is a character. Actors play a character. That's how these movies work. The "reboot" only really happened once in the Bond universe with Craig. Otherwise it was just people playing James Bond. Not a random person who takes that name and 007, because that doesn't make sense. Unless they take the mannerisms, desires, etc of the Bond agent before them? Nah, illogical!

What happened here is that the writers killed the character. You can't play a dead character, so before they can find a Bond, they need to contrive a stupid story to explain it, or pretend to ignore it. They may even do something dumb like finding some space in the non-existent Bond timeline to shoehorn in a story with digital recreations of actors from past Bond movies as cameos. Sheriff J.W. Pepper, welcome to international police and spy training camp, you are bunking with a British chap named James.

Unless it Kenney or Wil-E-Coyote, you don't kill the character.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Bond is a character. Actors play a character. That's how these movies work. The "reboot" only really happened once in the Bond universe with Craig. Otherwise it was just people playing James Bond. Not a random person who takes that name and 007, because that doesn't make sense. Unless they take the mannerisms, desires, etc of the Bond agent before them? Nah, illogical!

What happened here is that the writers killed the character. You can't play a dead character, so before they can find a Bond, they need to contrive a stupid story to explain it, or pretend to ignore it.

They don’t have to do any of that. Once again, continuity does not matter at all in the Bond universe, and you can easily reboot it with a new actor and create any new adventures you want with the character, and Bond fans will still enjoy it. All you need is the famous gun barrel opening, the fancy cars, the cool gadgets, the beautiful women, the exotic locations, a few action set pieces, and bam. You’re off to the races.