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Old 09-09-2010, 09:06 AM   #81
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Don’t think so. It’s keel-oh-meter. Look at how its pronounced in the pilot’s phonetic alphabet as an example.
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:05 AM   #82
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Misuse of the whom. I hate it when people think they are being smart when using the word whom, but completely misuse it. I am talking about the people whom think that this is how you use it.
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Don’t think so. It’s keel-oh-meter. Look at how its pronounced in the pilot’s phonetic alphabet as an example.
Not in my dictionary. It's as I said.
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:28 AM   #84
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Lay vs lie

The verb lay must always have a direct object.
Example: I lay the book on the shelf

The verb to lie NEVER has a direct object.
Example: I lie down when I get tired
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:43 AM   #85
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Kilometre. It's pronounced kill-oh-me-ter, not kill-om-et-er.
My physics teacher used to correct me with the pronunciation of kilometer, explaining the roots of the parts of the word, kilo and meter. I then started pronouncing words using his rule to annoy him, eg. car-toh-grapher instead of car-taw-grapher.

My dictionary has both keelo and killo as correct.
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:11 PM   #86
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Secont. Everyone in North America says this, there's no escaping it. Why do people put a T at the end of second?!

My mom taught English for many years and I've read books on English grammar as a hobby. I find if you speak English properly and occasionally make an effort to not end sentences with prepositions, you come across as a know-it-all.

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Old 09-09-2010, 12:17 PM   #87
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By Kwee Lain

We’ll begin with a box, and the plural is boxes,
But the plural of ox becomes oxen, not oxes.
One fowl is a goose, but two are called geese,
Yet the plural of moose should never be meese.

You may find a lone mouse or a nest full of mice,
Yet the plural of house is houses, not hice.
If the plural of man is always called men,
Why shouldn’t the plural of pan be called pen?

If I speak of my foot and show you my feet,
And I give you a boot, would a pair be called beet?
If one is a tooth and a whole set are teeth,
Why shouldn’t the plural of booth be called beeth?

Then one may be that, and three would be those,
Yet hat in the plural would never be hose,
And the plural of cat is cats, not cose.

We speak of a brother and also of brethren,
But though we say mother, we never say methren.
Then the masculine pronouns are he, his and him,
But imagine the feminine: she, shis and shim!

Let’s face it – English is a crazy language.
There is no egg in eggplant nor ham in hamburger;
Neither apple nor pine in pineapple.

English muffins weren’t invented in England.
We take English for granted, but if we explore its paradoxes,
We find that quicksand can work slowly,

Boxing rings are square, and a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.
And why is it that writers write but fingers don’t fing,
Grocers don’t groce and hammers don’t ham?

Doesn’t it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend.
If you have a bunch of odds and ends and get rid of all
But one of them, what do you call it?

If teachers taught, why didn’t preachers praught?
Sometimes I think all the folks who grew up speaking English
Should be committed to an asylum for the verbally insane.

In what other language do people recite at a play and play at a recital?
We ship by truck but send cargo by ship.
We have noses that run and feet that smell.
We park in a driveway and drive in a parkway.

And how can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same,
While a wise man and a wise guy are opposites?

You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language
In which your house can burn up as it burns down,
In which you fill in a form by filling it out,
And in which an alarm goes off by going on.
And, in closing, if Father is Pop,
How come Mother’s not Mop?
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:23 PM   #88
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And if no one mentioned it... the past tense of bring is not BRANG.
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My bother says all-exclusive resort. I say it must have no room, no food and no drinks because it would be the opposite of all-inclusive, which provides all of those things.

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Secont. Everyone in North America says this, there's no escaping it. Why do people put a T at the end of second?!

My mom taught English for many years and I've read books on English grammar as a hobby. I find if you speak English properly and occasionally make an effort to not end sentences with prepositions, you come across as a know-it-all.
Not everyone says secont.

I don't think it sounds pretentious at all to speak and write properly. I think it shows class, intelligence and care for the language. I respect anyone who writes and speaks well.
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Old 09-09-2010, 01:05 PM   #90
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Secont. Everyone in North America says this, there's no escaping it. Why do people put a T at the end of second?!

My mom taught English for many years and I've read books on English grammar as a hobby. I find if you speak English properly and occasionally make an effort to not end sentences with prepositions, you come across as a know-it-all.
Huh? I don't recall ever hearing anyone pronounce it that way.
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My bother says all-exclusive resort. I say it must have no room, no food and no drinks because it would be the opposite of all-inclusive, which provides all of those things.



Not everyone says secont.

I don't think it sounds pretentious at all to speak and write properly. I think it shows class, intelligence and care for the language. I respect anyone who writes and speaks well.
I would agree. From what I have seen, a person's ability to open doors (eg. get into a specific University), and succeed in business, or other avenues of endeavor, is directly related to how well they write and speak.
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I used to have a teacher who said fillum instead of film. Drove me crazy.
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I would agree. From what I have seen, a person's ability to open doors (eg. get into a specific University), and succeed in business, or other avenues of endeavor, is directly related to how well they write and speak.
A good point that I should have included. I'm quite successful in my business, which depends heavily on effective communication with my clients. I take care in how I speak and write to them, and I think it positions me well. People who use the language properly (properly, not perfectly) are more likely to be successful.
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Not everyone says secont.
Exaggeration on my part obviously, but the number of people that do say it this way is quite irritating.
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Old 09-09-2010, 06:49 PM   #96
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What if "I could care less" is understood to be verbal irony?
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Old 09-09-2010, 07:03 PM   #97
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My physics teacher used to correct me with the pronunciation of kilometer, explaining the roots of the parts of the word, kilo and meter. I then started pronouncing words using his rule to annoy him, eg. car-toh-grapher instead of car-taw-grapher.

My dictionary has both keelo and killo as correct.
So I did some more research on this, and apparently, the BIMP (International Bureau of Weights and Measures) does not specify a standard for pronunciation of SI units. They only set standards on the abbreviations, so a km is a km worldwide.

That being said, I stand by keelo-meter as the correct pronunciation, since meter is a french word, and they pronounce it keelo (more or less)
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Actually, it's keelo-metre. Really, get it straight.
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McIvor (name of road in SE Calgary) - McIver (name of mayoral candidate who promises all the things he didn't do in 9 years as alderman)
I believe you cannot count proper names in this debate:

Ric McIver, mayoral candidate = Mick-I-Ver

Nathan McIver, hockey player = Mick-EE-Ver

How do I know this? I know Nathan's Uncle and Cousin and that's how they pronouce their last name.
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lose / loose get mixed up quite often, to humorous results.

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