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Old 06-25-2010, 03:31 PM   #81
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Injured rugby player on the ground:


Incredibly brave footballer battling through the blood:
Fair enough, how many people were complaining about diving in the last Rugby World Cup?

My picture was a bit tounge in cheek, but the fact of the matter is there is A LOT of diving in soccer at the highest levels. Anyone who disagrees almost alwasy goes with, hey, it may not look like it hurt that much, but it really does.

Fine, but there are a lot of other rougher sports where guys wear no pads, and you don't see them rolling around on the ground with the frequency you do in soccer. And remarkably, there is a minute fraction of talk about diving in those sports as there is in soccer.
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Old 06-25-2010, 03:32 PM   #82
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You shoulda used this rugby photo.

#12 = no crotch grabbing!
Hooray for me!
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Old 06-25-2010, 03:45 PM   #83
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These arguments about "Oh it actually hurts quite a bit because you don't have pads", are just silly. First of all, don't these guys wear shin pads? And isn't that exactly where they all grab as soon as they go down?

Secondsly watch ANY rugby game (including 8 year olds) and you'll see a bunch of guys wearing no pads who get hit WAY harder than any soccer player several times throughout the game. I'll bet you can count on less than 1 finger the number of guys you see rolling around clutching a body part, only to get up as soon as a penalty is awarded.

To illustrate the point, I submit the following:



For the record, both these guys finished their games (though I'm only assuming in Beckham's case)

I'd say one of two things can explain this.
1) Soccer players are a bunch of divers
2) Yellow/Red cards have some sort of magical healing powers that really should be looked into.
It's absolutely brilliant that you managed to find a picture in which one of the players had his season ended, and World Cup all but ruined. Guess which one.
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It's absolutely brilliant that you managed to find a picture in which one of the players had his season ended, and World Cup all but ruined. Guess which one.
I didn't put this together, but I thought that might acutaly be the case, as I knew Beckham has had some major injuries. But I mean really can't we just replace that with any number of picutures of Ronaldo?
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Old 06-25-2010, 03:55 PM   #85
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I don't even know what that means. but anyway, clearly Rugby is in another league for toughness. Pretty much unnecessary comparison its so brutal.
Numbers go by position in rugby.
The guys standing up are the props and hookers #s 1,2, and 3.
The guys with their heads between them are the second rows #s 4 and 5.

I almost always play inside center, which is a back, so not a part of the scrum, so I wear # 12.
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Old 06-25-2010, 04:07 PM   #86
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Old 06-26-2010, 03:10 AM   #88
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Just because a lot of people play it doesn't mean its exciting to watch. I like playing chess... but watching it would be a real snooze fest.
I agree. That is not why it's exciting. There are other reasons.

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Not saying the soccer can't be exciting to watch... it can be... for brief intermittent moments... but unfortunately those are far and few between.... in an outdoor soccer match.
If you prefer biting on a hotdog, sipping on a beer at a baseball or NFL game, rather than watching teams constantly try to gain field position, than ok. If you consider that American football, rugby, Australian football, Gaelic football, and soccer, ALL evolved from the same sport, it might put it into perspective. Many NFL/CFL games feature many turnovers with nothing much than a few field goals over the course of a half (perhaps a rouge or 2 in the CFL), and people applaud the yardage gained by the team with the advantage. In soccer, that simply goes on constantly. It definitely involves a lot of gaining of field position, but constantly, without annoying stoppages all the time. I like football, but it's hard to concentrate on it when it stops so often.

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Lets face it... the field of play is way too big and most of the game happens away from the goal net.... which makes it kind of boring. If you've got to be a soccer expert to really enjoy watching the game, it loses right there. An exciting sport to watch is any sport that anybody (expert or not) can really get into because the action is "on the edge of your seat" type action and the final result of the game can change at anytime/any moment. Soccer is not that.
It's the simplest game in the world to get. You can have never HEARD of the sport, and it'd take you 1-2 minutes to understand how the game works (perhaps the offside rule may take a bit). Baseball takes months, football takes a while, and while basketball's simple, the court is too SMALL, and the rules don't allow for any proper defense to occur within a game.
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Just did some stats checking on the Fifa World Cup site

So far there have been 435 shots on goal
Total of 44 games played.
Which averages out to slightly under 10 shots on goal per game.... or 5 per team.

Wow ... thats a blistering pace of 1 shot on net every 9 minutes (counting shots by both teams)..... how do you guys handle all that excitement? ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
I'm not sure how I handled watchin soccer, but I'm glad you've done the math that I, a former soccer fan, have clearly been too naive and incompetent to do. Thank you for showing me the way. Soccer is boring. I hate it. How did it absorb me so?....

Now until I start posting in baseball threads about how seriously boring THAT game is, there's no need for any of you in here. I'm sorry that the most popular sport in the world is taking valuable TV time away from something else you might want to watch....even though all the games are on CBC during the hockey off-season. Does Stephen Brunt talking about it on the radio bother you that much??
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Can't wait until July 1st when the CFL starts up again.
me too! thursday!!
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Can't wait until September 9th when NFL starts up again.
so you'd rather watch baseball for the next 2 and a half months til american football starts up?
CFL or NFL, its football, more exciting than baseball and golf
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Let me add Spain to my hit list of teams I want out.
That Spain/Chile game yesterday was brutal in the second half. Spain played pass the whole time, and Chile stopped pressing, content with the 1 goal loss.

Portugal
Spain
Argentina
Paraguay

Can all go home anytime. It would be better for the sport's image if the winning team was a hard charging honest team, not a bunch of faking pussies.
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This USA-Ghana game has been good, hasn't been a dive yet, two good teams playing hard. You should maybe take a look instead of looking for pictures on the internet.
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The USA plays a really good game - exactly how I think Soccer should be played. Similar to the Germans but with more aggression.
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This USA-Ghana game has been good, hasn't been a dive yet, two good teams playing hard. You should maybe take a look instead of looking for pictures on the internet.
Agree. Ghana plays a logical, honest game. Their goalie is awesome. L. O. ,MF'N L. @ Dempsey in a crumpled heap. You are not a Euro, get the hell up, baby. He's really putting on a sportsmanship clinic this game.

Go Ghana!

My top 4 favs:

Mexico
Ghana
Chile
S.Korea

I think the Germans will take the whole schibang.

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A tip of my hat to the commentators, these guys are so good. They call it like it is and they do it alone.

The ability they have to insult someone but still keep it civil is an art.

Nothing to over the top, just complete pro's the whole time.
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WOW. Just WOW. Now, that's a nice goal.

"It was full of absolute power, purpose and precision, no matter how you look at it..."
I love these announcers.
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It's a single-man booth!

That's John Helm at his best. He can make anything sound interesting!

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The US is Ghana from the World Cup.
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