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Old 02-21-2010, 09:14 PM   #81
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I'm sorry, but you can't look at plus/minus as an indicator of this game. Marty Brodeur was the indicator of this game.
The fact he tipped in the first goal is.
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Old 02-21-2010, 09:14 PM   #82
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Babcock's riding the San Jose trio too much, IMO, and it's impeding the creation of chemistry with the other lines because of it, especially when he keeps rotating players around on the Crosby line.

And why was Seabrook brought to Vancouver if he's not going to pair up with Keith?
Totally agree with the SJ line being over used. I'd probably make Perry the 13th forward and figure out how to let Toews, Morrow, Staal and Richards get more ice time. Leave Iggy-Crosby-Nash and the SJ lines alone.

If Seabrook and Keith don't play together it is a waste. We could have really used Jbo in one of those spots.
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Old 02-21-2010, 09:14 PM   #83
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8rodeur badly outmatched by Miller.

Everything else great for Canada

That's the game in a nutshell.

Miller played lights out.

Brodeur played shots in.
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Old 02-21-2010, 09:14 PM   #84
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Hate to say it, but it's gotta be Luo the rest of the way, build him some momentum against Germany (another SO?) then roll onto Russia. Luo wouldn't have come out to play the puck those 2 times it cost us...
not to mention that ANY butterfly goaltender would have had that 4th one......what was Brodeur's stick doing BETWEEN his legs?!
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Old 02-21-2010, 09:14 PM   #85
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I can't think of any one thing that Iginla did to ignite that line, but the proof is in the pudding once he went to that line they were more effective.

If its anything that he does it is create space. The other team HAS to respect him out there, more so than Richards, Bergeron or Toews, they have to give him more attention because he is Jarome Iginla. That creates more space.
Richards, Bergeron and Toews are not wingers at any level. Of course Iginla will be better than them on the top line.
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March 15/2010 when the Flames play Detriot I hope Flames fans let Babcock have it!
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Old 02-21-2010, 09:15 PM   #87
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In my opinion, I thought Heatley was the most dangerous skater. Wondering if Babcock would even consider pairing him with Crosby. Anyway, it wasn't the gold medal game...
Heatley is dangerous because he has sick chemistry with Thornton and Marleau. Why split them up? In the little time Nash/Crosby/Iginla have played they look great just lack some finish.
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Why not Fleury? He has done nothing but win in all levels.
Because Luongo is the better goalie. If they want to put Fleury as the backup then that is fine but Fleury won't even be considered to start.
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I have been sent here by VCFA (Vancouver Canuck Fan Association) to help you prepare for Luongo being the starter from here on in.

As some of you may or may not know, when Luongo is in net cheering has to change a little. Now when you want to cheer, cheering normally is not good. You must now yell "Loooou!". "Booo", "Oooo" are also both acceptable if in a large gathering as no one will notice (We did try out Stuuuuuu and Snoooooo-snoo, but people seemed to notice).

Also, this it not made just for great, or even good saves. You are to do this on all shots directed on the Canada net. If it hits the post, side of the net, flat out misses or is even blocked. This is because Luongo obviously caused this and his miraculous ability to do this should be lauded as an amazing save.

We also suggest that you begin yelling "Whoo!" after each goal. This isn't mandatory, but it may make Looooouongo feel more at home.

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If a goalie steals a game, it just means the team wasn't good enough. Championship teams always find a way.

Worst Canadian team ever.
The Turin team had Bertuzzi. Remember that.

If Babcock puts his ego aside, admits he has made horrible decisions, then maybe we can salvage something.

Iggy-Crosby-Nash need to stay a line.

PP should be Heatley-Crosby-Nash with Keith and Iggy on the backend.

Luongo should definitely start. Pronger and Boyle were our 2 worst defenseman. Nieds had a bad 1st period, but I thought played well for the 2nd and 3rd.
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The fact he tipped in the first goal is.
You really think that play was an indicator that Crosby played a bad game? Really?
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I'm sorry, but you can't look at plus/minus as an indicator of this game. Marty Brodeur was the indicator of this game.

Who said I was using it as an indicator. I just posted a stat that is all.

I have said numerous times we lost the game because of Brodeur.
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Watch for this top line next game:
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Who said I was using it as an indicator. I just posted a stat that is all.

I have said numerous times we lost the game because of Brodeur.
Agreed.
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If a goalie steals a game, it just means the team wasn't good enough. Championship teams always find a way.

Worst Canadian team ever.
What a joke.

You do realize that the NHL plays 7 game series and 82 game regular seasons for a reason, right? It's because things like puck luck and hot goalies can play a major role in an individual game.

I guess no teams in the NHL are Championship teams because they've all lost games they should have won because the goalie on one side was much better than the one on the other.

Miller stood on his head (and Canada still managed to get 3 by him) while Brodeur and his inability to make proper save selection let in 3 goals he probably should have had.

Time to Canada to go with Luongo. He plays a much more consistent style of goal than Brodeur which clearly suits Canada's style of play.
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Seabrook has averaged about 8:30 TOI in the three games, and most of the time he has looked out of place. Without even getting into the Bouwmeester argument I think Green playing some 7 minutes, mostly on the PP, would be far better than having Seabrook warming the bench.

All of the non-obvious choices Yzerman made don't seem to be paying off, Seabrook, Bergeron even Niedermayer (for those of us who had our doubts), Perry or whoever I think could of easily been replaced with the likes of Bouwmeester, Green or Stamkos etc. and made a better team.

Oh well, it's not like the team will break a sweat playing Germany and it looked like they would have to meet Russia one way or another so maybe the extra "practice" wont hurt.
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Canada lost because Ryan Miller and Brian Rafalski played a heck of a game. Also the difference is Team USA's D clears in front of the net and our D's didn't. Our top line didn't show up until late in the 3rd period. Pronger and Niedermayer suck big time tonight especially Pronger. Brodeur showed he is a human being and played like crap. He should just concentrate on stopping the puck instead of clearing the puck or flopping like crazy. Two goals scored on his clearing attempt, 2 goals scored on him lying down on the ice. Pronger is too slow to handle the Americans.
Coaching decision were also a question mark on this game. Why the heck he waited until the third period to put the line who scored the most points in the 2 games and keep insisting Richard is the answer. I don't mind the Sharks line because they created some chances but Marleau can't finish. Corey Perry is useless on Getzlaf's line with Staal. Babcock should put Toews on that line and use Morrow-Bergeron-Richard as the energy line.

It's a do-or-die next game and hopefully Canada won't take the Germans lightly.
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Why not Fleury? He has done nothing but win in all levels.
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who ever even considered this guy over Lu-zer and Baseball Bat Brody. Fleury's .908 sv pct is nothing to write home about, but the guy won a Cup for a reason, and outdueled Cam Ward in last year's playoffs.

Just say no to Canucks goalies and Brodeur. Oh, and to Jumbo Joe Thornton, too. Why he was ever selected with his penchant for crumbling in big games, I'll never know.
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not to mention that ANY butterfly goaltender would have had that 4th one......what was Brodeur's stick doing BETWEEN his legs?!
You saw that too. He tipped it in on himself through his legs.
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