Sarah Palin: Marketing Mavin

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Bagor

The original ethics investigation.

I've put it in red saying as you sometimes appear to have comprehension issues.

Findings: (from the report). "I find that Govenor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act.

Palin: "Well, I’m very very pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing," Palin said, "any hint of any kind of unethical activity there. Very pleased to be cleared of any of that."

Either she's flat out lying or just flat out stupid.

Your quoting from the report her enemies in congress authored after their public ethics hearings. Palin was cleared by the special prosecutor who was investigating the case of any wrong doing. That report came out just before the election but, was ignored by most of the MSM.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Your quoting from the report her enemies in congress authored after their public ethics hearings. Palin was cleared by the special prosecutor who was investigating the case of any wrong doing. That report came out just before the election but, was ignored by most of the MSM.

Your attempt at a tangent is completely useless and dishonest. Stick to the issue.

Neither here nor there. Red again for your benefit.

Fact is in the concluding report she was violated.
Fact is she lied trough her teeth referring to the SAME report by claiming she was cleared.

A big whopping, grinding and gnashing of teeth, burning lie.

[Calgaryborn]

[quote=Dion;1526073]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Really?

"Our opponent ... is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country,"

That nose of hers got quite long after that speech

William Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist. Obama was/is friends with him. They worked on a charity board together and gave speeches at several events together. Obama wrote the forward to one of Ayer's books in which Ayers advocates his socialist views of education. Obama has been in Ayer's home. If anyone was telling half truths it was Obama who said that Ayers was "just a guy in the neighbourhood" when asked to explain the extent of their relationship in a debate with Hilliary.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

What machinery? You have two killing cones and a basin to catch the blood. You hold the birds upside down so the blood rushes to their head. This keeps them from fighting or making noise while you carry them to the cone. You stick them in the cone and cut off their head. Their blood drips into the basin. It takes about a minute and a half to bleed out. The shaking you seen was simply the birds nervous system. If the guy had placed the bird on it's feet at that point it would have run around flapping for a couple minutes or until it fell over. He held it in the cone because the wings flapping could have knocked it out of the cone. You don't need a machine to kill a turkey. They probably had one for plucking the feathers but, it isn't in the shot.

Ha ha. I thought that shaking action was a machine doing something. You got me.

Although, it makes it just a little funnier to know that was the bird making all that racket, and not a machine. Not really funny for the bird I guess but...

Anyway, is this woman your mom or something? I don't think I've ever seen a politician defended so vehemently in the face of such overwhelming evidence of incompetence, bad judgement and low intelligence.

It's got nothing to do with her religion or what she believes outside of politics and everything to do with the fact that she can't answer a simple question and appears totally clueless on just about every topic.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

William Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist. Obama was/is friends with him. They worked on a charity board together and gave speeches at several events together. Obama wrote the forward to one of Ayer's books in which Ayers advocates his socialist views of education. Obama has been in Ayer's home. If anyone was telling half truths it was Obama who said that Ayers was "just a guy in the neighbourhood" when asked to explain the extent of their relationship in a debate with Hilliary.

From Fact Check:

Verdict: False. There is no indication that Ayers and Obama are now "palling around," or that they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years. Also, there is nothing to suggest that Ayers is now involved in terrorist activity or that other Obama associates are.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...th-terrorists/

[missdpuck]

Right again fotze. I became a veg because my family owned a pork slaughterhouse/meat packing plant. Yuck.

[onetwo_threefour]

[QUOTE=Calgaryborn;1526092]

Originally Posted by Dion

William Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist. Obama was/is friends with him. They worked on a charity board together and gave speeches at several events together. Obama wrote the forward to one of Ayer's books in which Ayers advocates his socialist views of education. Obama has been in Ayer's home. If anyone was telling half truths it was Obama who said that Ayers was "just a guy in the neighbourhood" when asked to explain the extent of their relationship in a debate with Hilliary.

You know, I've been to my boss' house, our names are on numerous documents together and we work together, but frankly, as individuals we have almost nothing in common and spend really only the minimum amount of time necessary to accomplish what we need for work. And yet, by your definition, I probably pal around with my boss.

Obama answered the charges with exactly as much detail as was warranted, and reasonable people accept his answers. Unreasonable people do not.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Your attempt at a tangent is completely useless and dishonest. Stick to the issue.

Neither here nor there. Red again for your benefit.

Fact is in the concluding report she was violated.

Yes she was violated. It wasn't a fair or impartial hearing because her accusers and judges were also her political rivals.

Originally Posted by Bagor

Fact is she lied trough her teeth referring to the SAME report by claiming she was cleared.

She didn't lie. Within that report they acknowledge that there was no proof that she used her office for personal gain. You are only looking at the conclusions these political enemies came up with. There was no basis in the body of the report for their very biased conclusions. Again the special prosecutor had his own investigation plus whatever so called evidence these legislators came up with. He concluded Governor Palin committed no crime.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

[COLOR=black]Yes she was violated..

this thread needs some comic relief

[Dion]

The Statement: Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, speaking on Oct. 29 in Bowling Green, Ohio, said Barack Obama "spent a lot of time with" Rashid Khalidi. "Rashid Khalidi, he, in addition to being a political ally of Barack Obama, he's a former spokesperson for the Palestinian Liberation Organization," she said.

The Verdict: Misleading. While Khalidi eight years ago hosted a political fund-raiser for Obama, the two men strongly disagree over the Israeli-Palestinian issue and there's no evidence of a continuing political relationship.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ma/#more-27209

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

That wouldn't have been much of a feat considering the colour of Obama's skin. I would have though racists would have seen that without Governor Palin pointing it out. By the way where did she use race in any of her speeches or are you the one doing the smearing?

"much of a feat" well Palin wasn't much of a candidate.

She didn't come right out with the N word but her 'not one of us' statement along with her 'proud of all her supporters' when their is film of racists going to her meetings, says she condoned it and used racism as a tactic.

http://www.observer.com/2008/politic...lin-s-rhetoric

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Dion

From Fact Check:

Verdict: False. There is no indication that Ayers and Obama are now "palling around," or that they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years. Also, there is nothing to suggest that Ayers is now involved in terrorist activity or that other Obama associates are.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...th-terrorists/

You do realize that Fact Check can only comment on what it knows. Since Obama left Chicago they don't know if the relationship has continued. The Fact is Obama had a relationship with Ayers for years. Obama wasn't telling the truth when he said the extent of the relationship was just another guy in the neighborhood.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

You do realize that Fact Check can only comment on what it knows. Since Obama left Chicago they don't know if the relationship has continued. The Fact is Obama had a relationship with Ayers for years. Obama wasn't telling the truth when he said the extent of the relationship was just another guy in the neighborhood.

So are you suggesting Sarah Palin is somehow knows more than what fact check knows?

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Yes she was violated. It wasn't a fair or impartial hearing because her accusers and judges were also her political rivals.

Congratulations on taking the first step.

Now (1) look up the definition of violated and (2) try and understand that when someone is violated and then turns around and says they were cleared that they are blatantly lying.

Baby steps but you can do it.

Whether it was fair or not is irrelevent. The F-A-C-T is that she was violated by the investigation and she turns around and says she was cleared.

A dishonest, barefaced, going to be struck down by lighning lie. I severly hope that she has prayed for repentance or else I fear by her own standards her soul is doomed.

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

She didn't lie.

Goddarn it. Just when you were doing so well.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

You do realize that Fact Check can only comment on what it knows. Since Obama left Chicago they don't know if the relationship has continued. The Fact is Obama had a relationship with Ayers for years. Obama wasn't telling the truth when he said the extent of the relationship was just another guy in the neighborhood.

But you can comment on something you don't know?

Give it up man. It's over. People didn't fall for this terrorism nonsense.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

So are you suggesting Sarah Palin is somehow knows more than what fact check knows?

I believe he's suggesting he does.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Dion

The Statement: Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, speaking on Oct. 29 in Bowling Green, Ohio, said Barack Obama "spent a lot of time with" Rashid Khalidi. "Rashid Khalidi, he, in addition to being a political ally of Barack Obama, he's a former spokesperson for the Palestinian Liberation Organization," she said.

The Verdict: Misleading. While Khalidi eight years ago hosted a political fund-raiser for Obama, the two men strongly disagree over the Israeli-Palestinian issue and there's no evidence of a continuing political relationship.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ma/#more-27209

Again they can only comment on what they know. Perhaps they should have seen some of the interviews on Fox. Also are they basing the limits to the relationship and the supposed disagreements the two of them had on Palestine on what Obama has said recently while trying to gain the presidency. Obama shouldn't be seen as a creditable source.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

So are you suggesting Sarah Palin is somehow knows more than what fact check knows?

I'm suggesting that Fact check often took Obama at his word when others had conflicting reports.

They also got things wrong. Remember when they said McCain was wrong for saying that Obama wanted sex taught to 5 year olds and fact check said he was wrong because there was a clause in the Bill that said the material should be age appropriate. They clearly missed the part about educating all kids{down to 5 years old} on the causes and prevention of STDs.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

I'm suggesting that Fact check often took Obama at his word when others had conflicting reports.

They also got things wrong. Remember when they said McCain was wrong for saying that Obama wanted sex taught to 5 year olds and fact check said he was wrong because there was a clause in the Bill that said the material should be age appropriate. They clearly missed the part about educating all kids{down to 5 years old} on the causes and prevention of STDs.

Because those reports are credible and/or not blogs?

Please, lets see those reports about his terrorist relationship. Blow Fact Check apart for me CB.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

That wouldn't have been much of a feat considering the colour of Obama's skin. I would have though racists would have seen that without Governor Palin pointing it out. By the way where did she use race in any of her speeches or are you the one doing the smearing?

Palin emphasizing the name Barack HUSSEIN Obama, and repeated references to Reverend Wright (against McCain's wishes) was "using race".