Public Break up

[Maritime Q-Scout]

on a side note... there's more to relationships than just the physical aspect sort-to-speak.

There's also an emotional level, intellectual level, and just spending quality time (whithout the bow-chicka-wow-wow) together.

So, what qualifies as cheating aside from the physical aspect?

[Superfraggle]

If she ain't putting out enough, satisfying your relationship needs, etc....absolutely you should go look elsewhere. AFTER ya dump the....less than ideal individual. If you need to go outside the relationship for these sorts of things, what are you in the relationship for?

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Superfraggle

If she ain't putting out enough, satisfying your relationship needs, etc....absolutely you should go look elsewhere. AFTER ya dump the....less than ideal individual. If you need to go outside the relationship for these sorts of things, what are you in the relationship for?

Exactly what my reponse would have been had you not already posted it.

[Mango]

Not sure if this odd, but I appreciate the honest in this thread. It's interesting to see things from the male point of view. I think we tend to generalize you guys, and it's good to see different opinions.

Carry on.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by 4X4

I do. It's called "not getting laid". If my woman constantly "has a headache", I'll go find someone that is willing to take an aspirin.

I think this also goes into the emotional area for some as well. If your relationship is a strong one in other areas, but you're having a 'lull', you probably won't cheat either. Weak relationships tend to end up with cheating, IMO.

I have a few friends who wanted to 'do the honourable thing,' and married people/roped them into marriages that end up with cheating. Most couples are actually still together though, because while they don't make good spouses, they make good family/parents/friends, and they don't want to disrupt the household. There's been cheating on both sides that spouses know about and while they may not like it, have accepted it.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Eastern Girl

So this begs the question, how much sex does a woman have to give a man to make sure he remains faithful?

If sex is the only thing that keeps you faithful then something is wrong. My Ex frankly turned into a bit of a tramp she wanted to **** so much.. with anyone it seemed..

[Eastern Girl]

Originally Posted by kermitology

If sex is the only thing that keeps you faithful then something is wrong. My Ex frankly turned into a bit of a tramp she wanted to **** so much.. with anyone it seemed..

I agree. I only asked that question in response to the person that said a man will cheat if he doesn't get enough sex.

I don't personally think that "not enough sex" is a reason to cheat. There is no valid reason for cheating.

[rockstar]

I agree, EG, but if you ask any cheaters, they'll tell you justifications are a lot easier to come by when you've been given the opportunity and the temptation. Good judgement can be difficult in the heat of the moment.

Not justifying anything here, though.

[flames_fan13]

I find it wierd that he said he was waiting 45 minutes while she was in the restroom at a bar. Who waits that long for you girlfriend or boyfriend to use a public restroom. And he says she did it twice in 2 hours, you would think after her doing the first time you would stop her then and not let her do it the second time. I would think that after waiting 15 minutes the guy would think something is going on.

[Hack&Lube]

Guys would just knock back a couple of beers and laugh about it.

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by Eastern Girl

So this begs the question, how much sex does a woman have to give a man to make sure he remains faithful?

Depends on the guy...but turn him down enough and he'll start looking elsewhere.

If you asked for sex 10 times in a row and got shot down wouldn't you start to get ****ed?

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

lol, I like how you try to zing me for saying it, yet you know exactly where it's from. Kudos.

Zing-A-Ling!

[return to the red]

Originally Posted by Eastern Girl

I agree. I only asked that question in response to the person that said a man will cheat if he doesn't get enough sex.

I don't personally think that "not enough sex" is a reason to cheat. There is no valid reason for cheating.

no no E.G., you misinterpreted me. I said if a guy wasn't getting it AT ALL then he was going to go find some eventually. No one gives love to me like me but a guy can only handle (no pun intended) that so much.

and I agree with you that not enough sex is not a valid reason. There is much more that a relationship can and should revolve around then sex, in fact I don't think you could have a long-term relationship with that as the cornerstone

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by return to the red

no no E.G., you misinterpreted me. I said if a guy wasn't getting it AT ALL then he was going to go find some eventually. No one gives love to me like me but a guy can only handle (no pun intended) that so much.

and I agree with you that not enough sex is not a valid reason. There is much more that a relationship can and should revolve around then sex, in fact I don't think you could have a long-term relationship with that as the cornerstone

Ok then, why not just dump her first then?

If she keeps coming up with lame excuses, that isn't a reason to cheat, but either dump her or talk to her.

Just my opinion anyways.

I would have expected more feedback from the CP elders to be quite honest.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

I'm still struggling to understand that the only way to cheat is to have a physical relationship with someone else. It's been stated above there's more to a relationship than just sex. So why is only sex cheating? If not, what constitutes cheating?

[Superfraggle]

Originally Posted by flames_fan13

I find it wierd that he said he was waiting 45 minutes while she was in the restroom at a bar. Who waits that long for you girlfriend or boyfriend to use a public restroom. And he says she did it twice in 2 hours, you would think after her doing the first time you would stop her then and not let her do it the second time. I would think that after waiting 15 minutes the guy would think something is going on.

Whattre you going to do? Say "no you can't go to the washroom...if you need to pee you'll have to do it right here"?!!! Sure he can ask about all the time it took, which may even be how he found out in the first place, but he can't exactly forbid her from going to the washroom.

[red '00]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

I'm still struggling to understand that the only way to cheat is to have a physical relationship with someone else. It's been stated above there's more to a relationship than just sex. So why is only sex cheating? If not, what constitutes cheating?

That's a good point. Though I suppose you could technically put kissing, hugging, flirting, etc into the cheating category... They're just theee... "less wrong" ones... I don't know about anyone else, but I'd personally be a little ****ed if I found out my girlfriend was going around flirting with other men. Though I may not break up with her right away over it like I would if she had sex with someone else... I think sexual contact is just the premier level of cheating.

[return to the red]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

I'm still struggling to understand that the only way to cheat is to have a physical relationship with someone else. It's been stated above there's more to a relationship than just sex. So why is only sex cheating? If not, what constitutes cheating?

If I look at another girl walking down the street and realize it, it's not like I have caught myself cheating. Just because you are on a diet doesn't mean you can't look at a menu. I know damn well that when I date a girl she will see other guys and "check them out". It's not wrong for her to do but where it gets very close to crossing the line is where I know she is looking at a guy and then goes beyond just looking. There is that unspoken area where you can look but that's it, any further and you have gone too far. If a girl gets mad at me for looking at another girl then she is obviously insecure about me and the relationship then i'm not sure if i want to be in the relationship.

This feels like a discussion destined for Dr. Phil

[Maritime Q-Scout]

I think looking at others is going a bit frather than what I meant (I see no problem with window shopping, just don't touch the merchandice) . I don't think there's anything wrong with flirting, especially if you have a naturally firty personality (one of my very best friends is a HUGE flirt with her good guy friends, but is also very clear about her boyfriend, her boyfriend doesn't mind as at the end of the night he knows "you might be getting a tease, I'm getting the real thing" LOL)

Is blowing off going out to the movies with your significant other to be with someone else cheating? If not, what if it's on a regular basis?

What if a girl's going out with another guy for supper, the guy pays, the next night the girl pays, and the girl is unaware the guy has a girlfriend?

What if you're relationship is only physical and your partener goes to someone else for comfort, security, to have an emotional connection, to have intelligent discourse? Is that cheating?

I guess my point is, why is the line sex? Who put the line there? While I'll agree it is cheating, is it the only way?

(now think about that in your basement stoned one night, LOL)

[Buff]

Originally Posted by red '00

That's a good point. Though I suppose you could technically put kissing, hugging, flirting, etc into the cheating category... They're just theee... "less wrong" ones... I don't know about anyone else, but I'd personally be a little ****ed if I found out my girlfriend was going around flirting with other men. Though I may not break up with her right away over it like I would if she had sex with someone else... I think sexual contact is just the premier level of cheating.

The Bible says this in Matthew 5:28:

28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...&context=verse