[Signing] Flames sign Tobias Rieder (1 yr, 2-way, $700k AAV)

[motorcrosser]

Now everybody is all happy. It wasn't long ago that you all were making fun of him when he signed PTO. He was sooo bad then.

Sent from Indianapolis

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by motorcrosser

Now everybody is all happy. It wasn't long ago that you all were making fun of him when he signed PTO. He was sooo bad then.

Sent from Indianapolis

I'm happy for any depth 2-way signing that's at or near league minimum and fulfills an organizational need (in this case, a speedy penalty killer to replace what Hathaway did in that role).

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by motorcrosser

Now everybody is all happy. It wasn't long ago that you all were making fun of him when he signed PTO. He was sooo bad then.

Sent from Indianapolis

Oh? There isn’t a single negative post about Rieder in the PTO thread. Most felt giving him a chance was worthwhile.

[motorcrosser]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Oh? There isn’t a single negative post about Rieder in the PTO thread. Most felt giving him a chance was worthwhile.

It must've been on Twitter or Facebook or some other medium. My bad.

Sent from Indianapolis

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

I’m actually quite convinced this is next level trolling by the Flames.

Pick up Oiler castaways, reclaim and repurpose them, upsell them elsewhere, profit.

It’s genius.

Going by precedent, it's just good business sense. You can almost guarantee a rebound for any player leaving Edmonton. Plus, you get them on the cheap.

That is the genius.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Oh? There isn’t a single negative post about Rieder in the PTO thread. Most felt giving him a chance was worthwhile.

I know I posted my favourite video of him.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The thing is the Flames are using ex Oilers in the proper positions

Inb4 Flames hire Peter Chiarelli to work the concessions at the Saddledome


Your $10 for my beer. The trade is one for one!

[Lanny_McDonald]

Don't like the Oiler stink that is beginning to find its way onto this team. Just don't like it.

[TheSquatch]

The "oiler stink" certainly is weird, and getting weirder. I can only think that people who have spent years/lives in pro hockey know more about certain people than I do. Couple this with plans which we don't know about - imagine a situation where Jankowski gets traded (he was part of the deal for Zucker, right?). That would leave the PK short of a real useful piece. So a guy to replace that standing by .... isn't crazy.

So I'll let this ride, see where it goes. Doesn't strike me as super important because with the exception of Talbot, we are talking peripheral pieces, and as mentioned earlier in the thread, Flames can use them in peripheral spots where the oilers have to put guys in top-tier positions because their depth is so poor.

[Locke]

Remember the days when the Calgary Flames and Edmonton Oilers just didnt do business together?

At all. Ever.

Just on principle.

Those were fine days.

My main concern is that dealing with Edmonton is like trading hockey cards with your slow little brother.

He knows he has one good card and thinks it make the rest of his crappy cards better, but you really dont want any of them.

[transplant99]

He is guaranteed 400K this year which would explain why he was willing to sign a 2-way.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1177955847336390656

[Zulu29]

Zero risk with a good chance of some upside. I like it.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by motorcrosser

Now everybody is all happy. It wasn't long ago that you all were making fun of him when he signed PTO. He was sooo bad then.

Sent from Indianapolis

That's just not true. I think the majority found him to be an interesting and favourable PTO add when it was announced.

I thought the Oilers had a pretty shrewd move last summer, shocked it turned out so poorly.

Now on a two way at league minimum this is free depth, and a no risk no brainer.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by New Era

Don't like the Oiler stink that is beginning to find its way onto this team. Just don't like it.

Focus on the escaped across enemy lines freedom fighter angle!

At least they're bit players. Backup goalie, PTO signee and a reclamation project.

Edmonton has a top six winger, top six defenseman, their starting goalie and two coaches.

[Willi Plett]

Originally Posted by transplant99

He is guaranteed 400K this year which would explain why he was willing to sign a 2-way.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1177955847336390656

Great contract structure. Good work by Tre.

Hope he can sign 2 more depth like that. Really good.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Locke

Remember the days when the Calgary Flames and Edmonton Oilers just didnt do business together?

At all. Ever.

Just on principle.

Those were fine days.

My main concern is that dealing with Edmonton is like trading hockey cards with your slow little brother.

He knows he has one good card and thinks it make the rest of his crappy cards better, but you really dont want any of them.

While I wholeheartedly agree with having anything to do with the Oilers at any point, there is something even more satisfying in seeing players, identified by many around the league as good players out of junior or otherwise, get forced or naively going to Edmonton, getting all their free will and skill kicked out of them due to overall current and historical organizational incompetentence and media bluster, which has put them in that position, leave, and succeed like they were expected to.

Dubnyk, Schultz, Hall are some of the originals. But even smaller roles like Strome last year get tossed away like bathwater, crapped on by the team through the media, made worse because of the media whipping the fans up, but went on to have a decent year.

Other GMs are realizing what we've said all along. Edmonton is no good. Not the players, but the organization and the media who places such high expectations on players who don't deserve them, and then tear into players when those expectations aren't meant, turning those decent players into sacks of crap, confidence wise. Other GMs are now plucking players out of that situation for cheap prices, or like Rieder, getting a player for the league minimum after one bad season in an organization that is 80% to blame for that bad season. The players, depending on their own mental makeup and how much the Edmonton experience has damaged them, can bounce right back to where they were trending to be, sooner than later and GMs realize that they can get a value price for a decent player.

Again, it's anywhere but Edmonton, and going to any NHL organization, and players can get back to being part of a normal organization, and back to a regular hockey player, with the skills that got them to the NHL in the first place.

[Jiri Hrdina]

^Strome is a great example. He hit career highs in goals with only a partial year away from the Oil.
The Oil basically gave away a 20 goal man.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by transplant99

He is guaranteed 400K this year which would explain why he was willing to sign a 2-way.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1177955847336390656

That website says no signing bonus. I wonder how the guaranteed money gets paid? If it’s by the flames up front that’s a really smart contract for Reider. He’d be close to free for anyone wanting to pick him up should he end up on waivers.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Hopefully the Flames can thank the Oilers for devaluing a serviceable asset in a year where cap space is tight.

[Rando]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

^Strome is a great example. He hit career highs in goals with only a partial year away from the Oil.
The Oil basically gave away a 20 goal man.

The linage of those trades are peak Peter Chiarelli.

Eberle for Strome
Strome for Spooner
Spooner for Sam Gagner

Consistent and noticeable downgrade at every transaction.