[News] Kypreos leaving Sportsnet

[Split98]

Originally Posted by sa226

I sometimes wonder if Television hockey analysis has changed or if I've changed.

I used to seek out any and every opinion of the TV talking heads to see what they had to say about my favorite team. I would be glued to TSN and HNIC. Now, I don't really give a poop. It seems everyone except for a select few are just blowhards going for a hot take rather than decent analysis. There's better analysis in print now anyway. Actual opinion backed up by research.

I won't really miss Kypreos and I definitely won't miss Maclean or Shannon.

As for the good ones, Mckenzie is the best. Friedman isn't really a hockey guy, but the perspective he takes as more of a journalist really works for him.

I don't really wan't to lose Hrudey on the local broadcast, but I think he's a way better analyst than a color guy.

Yeah, I feel the same way

It seems (seemed?) like for a long time the more unlikable you were, the more SN wanted your face everywhere. Back in my day, Don usually got a few good eye-rolls but was almost a welcome bit of rudeness amongst a well-run program.

Pissing people off and throwing out wild stupid theories always draws clicks with ire - and it works. You just have to throw all journalistic integrity out the window and hope that your fan base doesn't get tired of it.


For the longest time it's been a mix of nonsense and team PR. Very little actual analysis, very little league coverage and very little honesty.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Fine by me. I can get some more grading or reading done. I was already doing that most of the time during intermissions, but this will just cement the idea of muting the t.v. and getting some work done.

I get more entertainment by reading the game thread in the intermission than I ever would watching those segments. Analysis of the game by CP is about the level of John Shannon most of the time anyway, but much more ranting and raving. Always fun!

whole hearted agreement.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I feel the NHL doesn't get enough blame for the current state of Canadian NHL broadcasts. There are few fans in this nation happy about what's transpired since the onset of the deal and it's very clear that the NHL simply does not give a crap.

Who'da thunk that giving exclusive rights to a network would result in a worse product for the consumer eh?

Not only that, but Rogers is the example in Canada of what happens when a company isn't pushed by competition. They are the company that tests the boundaries of 'what will everyone tolerate'?

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don't know this for sure but my theory is that TSN is managing their costs by having a broader range of talent/analysts to draw from - so I think they are paying less but asking less of everyone. It seems like their CFL and NHL panels now have a much broader range of people depending on what night you watch.

But overall there hasn't been the same degradation in the product. TSN was always a step ahead of SN - and the gap is now widening. I don't know what SN's long-term plan here is.

TSN even made the investment to bring Jay and Dan back. I'm sure those guys aren't cheap.

Wondering if you have any knowledge of how this works but it seems like TSN is more flexible in letting their on air talent work alternate revenue streams.

For instance Gord Miller does games for both TSN and NBC, whereas I don't believe any of the sportsnet personalities do work outside of their network umbrella.

[hwy19man]

https://twitter.com/SportsnetPR

[Locke]

Originally Posted by hwy19man

https://twitter.com/SportsnetPR

"We Sincerely Thank Nick for getting off of our Lawn."

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by sa226

I sometimes wonder if Television hockey analysis has changed or if I've changed.

I used to seek out any and every opinion of the TV talking heads to see what they had to say about my favorite team. I would be glued to TSN and HNIC. Now, I don't really give a poop. It seems everyone except for a select few are just blowhards going for a hot take rather than decent analysis. There's better analysis in print now anyway. Actual opinion backed up by research.

I won't really miss Kypreos and I definitely won't miss Maclean or Shannon.

As for the good ones, Mckenzie is the best. Friedman isn't really a hockey guy, but the perspective he takes as more of a journalist really works for him.

I don't really wan't to lose Hrudey on the local broadcast, but I think he's a way better analyst than a color guy.

I completely agree. I find almost all the hockey analysis I get on TV to be meaningless to me. That's because I follow my favourite team so closely, that whatever the 30s summary they state on TV regarding the flames is like reading a newspaper headline from yesterday's paper (it's a 1 liner summary of something everybody already knows).

I think the one things that sportsnet has done well, particularly for Calgary, is having a solid regional team. The sportnet crew covering the flames games do provide a solid perspective of the flames news and analysis.

The national team analysis is typically garbage. I actually didn't mind Kypreos, especially by the end. The only part of the national broadcast I can stand or even tune into is the hockey hot stove or whatever, typically the 2nd intermission of game 1 of HNIC. Not real analysis, but some decent rumours and speculation talk with guys like Friedmann.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Whatever SN does, they need to keep Ryan Leslie. If there's one guy that's doing his part to make a halfway decent broadcast happen, it's him.

[sempuki]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

I completely agree. I find almost all the hockey analysis I get on TV to be meaningless to me. That's because I follow my favourite team so closely, that whatever the 30s summary they state on TV regarding the flames is like reading a newspaper headline from yesterday's paper (it's a 1 liner summary of something everybody already knows).

I think the one things that sportsnet has done well, particularly for Calgary, is having a solid regional team. The sportnet crew covering the flames games do provide a solid perspective of the flames news and analysis.

The national team analysis is typically garbage. I actually didn't mind Kypreos, especially by the end. The only part of the national broadcast I can stand or even tune into is the hockey hot stove or whatever, typically the 2nd intermission of game 1 of HNIC. Not real analysis, but some decent rumours and speculation talk with guys like Friedmann.

I enjoyed hearing from Hrudy because it was clear he spends (spent?) time with the team and would let little tidbits drop. Friedman as well would leak information from time to time. But if you're not telling me something I don't already know, I just tune out.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Whatever SN does, they need to keep Ryan Leslie. If there's one guy that's doing his part to make a halfway decent broadcast happen, it's him.

Isn’t he employed by the Flames? I always thought they hired his role and not sportsnet. Not entirely sure though

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I enjoyed him in the role, much more than I did in his prior broadcasting gigs.
Will be interesting to see where he lands next. I agree this is likely a cost cutting move. Happening everywhere right now.

His television voice and mannerisms were terrible at first, but he grew into it well. Not unlike many ex-players that go into broadcasting.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Whatever SN does, they need to keep Ryan Leslie. If there's one guy that's doing his part to make a halfway decent broadcast happen, it's him.

If you just jinxed it, you're dead to me.

[Darth Tkachuk]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

"Hot chick"?

Really?

No wonder it's hard for women to get ahead in this world.

I'd be happy for a competent woman, regardless of what she looks like. Knowledgeable and well-spoken would be good, and a nice balance.

Yes, God forbid a male find a female attractive!! I mean, how could someone stoop so low? PC bull####

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Darth Tkachuk

Yes, God forbid a male find a female attractive!! I mean, how could someone stoop so low? PC bull####

Whatever dude, it should not form any part of the hiring criteria for a hockey panel. And if it does it certainly seems to be a one-sided proposition.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Darth Tkachuk

Yes, God forbid a male find a female attractive!! I mean, how could someone stoop so low? PC bull####

This isn’t what we are saying.

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Whatever dude, it should not form any part of the hiring criteria for a hockey panel. And if it does it certainly seems to be a one-sided proposition.

This is.

[MissTeeks]

Would it kill them to get some actually attractive males for the hockey panels? All the current ones have bad hair and wear the same ugly suits.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Torture

Kypreos AND Shannon gone? Is it my birthday??

Originally Posted by Yamer

Doug Maclean just announced on Twitter he is not returning either.

Kypreos, Shannon AND Doug Maclean not coming back!!! Apparently it's mine.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I feel the NHL doesn't get enough blame for the current state of Canadian NHL broadcasts. There are few fans in this nation happy about what's transpired since the onset of the deal and it's very clear that the NHL simply does not give a crap.

the NHL pissed away all their goodwill and quality when they awarded their exclusive rights to a 3rd rate pbs/shaw tv/sait student production.

The stupidest move in NHL history. They may never recover.

[calumniate]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

Would it kill them to get some actually attractive males for the hockey panels? All the current ones have bad hair and wear the same ugly suits.

Those socks and short pants though! :d Maybe George will come back with his 3 size too small hipster suits

[GioforPM]

Hot take: I don't care about any of the panels, SN or TSN. They seem about the same to me, probably because I care so little. I just want to watch the game.