[POLL] Calgary Flames coaching change mega-thread—with poll

[blender]

Regarding rumours about GG being fired:
I heard Francis on NHL Radio say before the Oilers game that GG would be gone if they don't make the playoffs and 50/50 if they do. He also said GG was unravelling.

I'm not saying I put too much stock in it, but the rumour is out there beyond CP.

[Vinny01]

If the Flames miss the playoffs then Gulutzan is likely fired. People can say otherwise but I don’t see how he survives.

Management is going to get roasted at the STH events if they do not make that change.

[Looch City]

If Gulutzan isn't fired, then might as well move this team to another city because you won't have fans here.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Management is going to get roasted at the STH events if they do not make that change.

I'm not a STH but I would implore all of you who are to ask the questions that Calgary media hasn't or won't ask when you are given the chance. This team's management needs to be asked the tough questions and be held completely accountable publicly.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I'm not a STH but I would implore all of you who are to ask the questions that Calgary media hasn't or won't ask when you are given the chance. This team's management needs to be asked the tough questions and be held completely accountable publicly.

Good luck KK will just smugly and persistently moderate “If we thought coaching was the problem we would have saved everyone some time coming to this today”

[Jiri Hrdina]

^How long ago was that quote made?

[CaptainYooh]

I have a strange feeling that Treliving is not going to fire Gulutzan, because that would be admitting his own mistake in hiring him in the first place. Over his tenure here, Treliving has demonstrated a staunch personal belief in the "process" and he might just stick to it by keeping GG for another season. With three superstar coaches that might be available this summer, not going all in on one of them would be unforgivable.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Agreed, it's frustrating how he can't adapt. I just don't see a big change with a new coach. There are too many massive holes up front IMO

Wait, how do you agree that he can't adapt (which is one of the biggest roles of an NHL head coach) and also say that you don't see that changing with a new coach?

It's unbelievable how trained our fan base is to accept mediocrity and the status quo.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Otto29

Who should replace Harvey the Hound? I'm sure he will get fired after this season based on absolutely no hard facts. I don't think he gets the crowd going anymore so he is getting fired....I'm sure of it! It's mostly because he never comes in my section. How dare he!

Yeah....that's what many of you sound like right now. GG hasn't been fired and in fact, the only place I ever hear that he is would be right here on CP.

No, it really isn't, not even close. Based on absolutely no hard facts? Really?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I'm not a STH but I would implore all of you who are to ask the questions that Calgary media hasn't or won't ask when you are given the chance. This team's management needs to be asked the tough questions and be held completely accountable publicly.

On the morning show on the fan they'll apparently speak to it a bit, but overall Calgary media just isn't interested in asking the tough questions or challenging the Flames in any meaningful manner.

[Cowperson]

Barry Trotz of Washington does not have an extension past this season.

He might be available if Washington doesn’t have a good playoff.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.ef651751564d

[chummer]

Trotz would be awesome.

Go whoever plays the Caps.

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Source?

It's been speculated by some in the media (usually radio stuff) that Gulutzan signed a 2 year contract with a team option for a 3rd year. Steinberg has also been suggested that is possibly the case on his Overtime show after recent games.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

I have a strange feeling that Treliving is not going to fire Gulutzan, because that would be admitting his own mistake in hiring him in the first place. Over his tenure here, Treliving has demonstrated a staunch personal belief in the "process" and he might just stick to it by keeping GG for another season. With three superstar coaches that might be available this summer, not going all in on one of them would be unforgivable.

I disagree. I think he admits mistakes.

He has also his job is to improve every position, to the extent it’s possible.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

If the Flames miss the playoffs then Gulutzan is likely fired. People can say otherwise but I don’t see how he survives.

Management is going to get roasted at the STH events if they do not make that change.

Mob rule?

If that's the case, the Flames organization is in big trouble.

[shadowlord]

Originally Posted by FlamingHomer

I think Cali might have nailed it in that GG stays but fires his assistants. He doesn't seem to be too eager to blame himself for failure. And possibly that might be the answer anyway. A better powerplay and goalie coach at least should improve the results.

The problem is goes beyond the PP though. Goaltending was an issue in past years, but with Smith and Rittich in a backup role, it was solid this year.

The coaching issues are with GG's stubbornness and inability to adapt to the situation in a timely manner; whether it is in-game (switching the goalie, timeouts, rallying the team between periods) or longer term (Brodie on the right, D pairings, Bennett at C). The purpose of youth is to grow and change. I don't see enough evidence of learning from past mistakes.

Unless there demonstration of a complete change in coaching philosophy over the reminder of the season and into the playoffs, the entire coaching staff has to go.

I can't put up with another season of wasted year of the core's contracts. I feel like we aren't getting the most out of our players because they're handcuffed to a system which hasn't been that effective in getting the wins, Bennett & Brodie and to a lesser extent Jankowski.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

^How long ago was that quote made?

6 months ago about no longer perusing a building.
https://globalnews.ca/video/3747786/...arena-proposal

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by shadowlord

The problem is goes beyond the PP though. Goaltending was an issue in past years, but with Smith and Rittich in a backup role, it was solid this year.

The coaching issues are with GG's stubbornness and inability to adapt to the situation in a timely manner; whether it is in-game (switching the goalie, timeouts, rallying the team between periods) or longer term (Brodie on the right, D pairings, Bennett at C). The purpose of youth is to grow and change. I don't see enough evidence of learning from past mistakes.

Unless there demonstration of a complete change in coaching philosophy over the reminder of the season and into the playoffs, the entire coaching staff has to go.

I can't put up with another season of wasted year of the core's contracts. I feel like we aren't getting the most out of our players because they're handcuffed to a system which hasn't been that effective in getting the wins, Bennett & Brodie and to a lesser extent Jankowski.

You're right, except Bennett at center was the right play. Bennett at center with exclusively AHL-caliber wingers was not.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by doncherry

"I believe when GG was hired the organization spoke about hiring a young coach who would grow with the team. Well, this is growing with the team. It's not going to be a straight line to the cup. There are going to be ups & downs. If they fired him, it would be an about face from where they were two years ago. "

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Originally Posted by Yoho

6 months ago about no longer perusing a building.
https://globalnews.ca/video/3747786/...arena-proposal

Actually meant this one, but didn't realize there was another page in the thread.

[Cortez]

I would bet that Dave Tippett is the replacement.