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Old 06-08-2017, 02:58 PM   #81
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So we have Mike Smith and Justin Williams penciled in? Any other 35+ year old players we can add to help take this team over the top? Maybe Iggy will come back? Get Regehr out of retirement. I see him almost weekly of late and he looks like he's still in shape.

Post Apex. Not truculent enough

How about a Gaudreau for Gaudreau trade? Book it
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Old 06-08-2017, 03:11 PM   #82
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I don't care if he is old and may not make sense... but I would still love the Flames to acquire Jagr.

I mean... its Jagr! It is fricken Jagr! I doubt there is any mutual interest... but it is Jagr! You know, the guy that pushed Mark "Dirty Elbows" Messier down a peg. That alone should be rewarded by the Flames with a contract.
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Old 06-08-2017, 03:37 PM   #83
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I like what Brad has built. The Elliott trade may end up being a mistake any way you look at it. But I personally want him to re-sign Stone, Versteeg and Engelland. I wouldn't be against signing Elliott for a short term affordable deal. To me they need to let their goalie of the future develop whether that is Gillies or parsons. We'll see.
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Old 06-08-2017, 03:45 PM   #84
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Listening to this interview, due to the lack of assets we have (missing 2nd and 3rd) I can't help but think that the goalie move that happens with this team is with Vegas. Makes me believe that one of our prospects goes their way for a goalie they select.

Same could be done with a depth D-man. Treliving made a point of saying how many good d-men would be available, and how few Centers there would be.

So....Maybe something like this would work:

To VGK:
O. Kylington
M. Stajan

To CGY:
C. Pickard
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Old 06-08-2017, 03:52 PM   #85
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Listening to this interview, due to the lack of assets we have (missing 2nd and 3rd) I can't help but think that the goalie move that happens with this team is with Vegas. Makes me believe that one of our prospects goes their way for a goalie they select.

Same could be done with a depth D-man. Treliving made a point of saying how many good d-men would be available, and how few Centers there would be.

So....Maybe something like this would work:

To VGK:
O. Kylington
M. Stajan


To CGY:
C. Pickard
Don't like that at all. Pickard is totally unproven, and Kylington has some huge potential. I'd rather have Elliott and/or Johnson than Pickard, so i don't see why we'd give up one of our best prospects.
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Old 06-08-2017, 04:06 PM   #86
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Don't like that at all. Pickard is totally unproven, and Kylington has some huge potential. I'd rather have Elliott and/or Johnson than Pickard, so i don't see why we'd give up one of our best prospects.
re-signing Elliott is going to cost you a 3rd anyways, remember that.

....and the proposed trade is just for an example. It could be any one of Raanta/Grubauer/Pickard coming to the Flames, and any type of package the other way. The main point is that reading between the lines on this interview, the deal is going to be with VGK, not with the specified team.

ETA: I just chose Pickard because he would be my choice. I really like him, and would be more than happy to have him as our starter.
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Old 06-08-2017, 04:12 PM   #87
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re-signing Elliott is going to cost you a 3rd anyways, remember that.

....and the proposed trade is just for an example. It could be any one of Raanta/Grubauer/Pickard coming to the Flames, and any type of package the other way. The main point is that reading between the lines on this interview, the deal is going to be with VGK, not with the specified team.

ETA: I just chose Pickard because he would be my choice. I really like him, and would be more than happy to have him as our starter.
Fair enough. I agree, the deal will likely be with VGK... I'd like Grubauer of all the options available... If we weren't already thin on picks this year I'd hang on to Elliott as an insurance policy. Either way, our goalie situation likely isn't going to be ideal next season.
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Old 06-08-2017, 04:58 PM   #88
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Listening to this interview, due to the lack of assets we have (missing 2nd and 3rd) I can't help but think that the goalie move that happens with this team is with Vegas. Makes me believe that one of our prospects goes their way for a goalie they select.

Same could be done with a depth D-man. Treliving made a point of saying how many good d-men would be available, and how few Centers there would be.

So....Maybe something like this would work:

To VGK:
O. Kylington
M. Stajan

To CGY:
C. Pickard
I just finished saying pretty much the exact thing to a friend. Not sure on moving kylington though. The assets(picks) dont need to be this year
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Old 06-08-2017, 05:37 PM   #89
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Would rather move any prospect defencemen before Kylington, as he has the highest ceiling by far.
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Old 06-08-2017, 05:54 PM   #90
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Don't like that at all. Pickard is totally unproven, and Kylington has some huge potential. I'd rather have Elliott and/or Johnson than Pickard, so i don't see why we'd give up one of our best prospects.
If Pickard is unproven then what is Kylington?
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If Pickard is unproven then what is Kylington?
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Listening to this interview, due to the lack of assets we have (missing 2nd and 3rd) I can't help but think that the goalie move that happens with this team is with Vegas. Makes me believe that one of our prospects goes their way for a goalie they select.

Same could be done with a depth D-man. Treliving made a point of saying how many good d-men would be available, and how few Centers there would be.

So....Maybe something like this would work:

To VGK:
O. Kylington
M. Stajan

To CGY:
C. Pickard
That's a pretty damn interesting trade. I think I'd do that if I were the Flames.
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Old 06-08-2017, 06:07 PM   #93
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I don't really like the idea of moving Kylington because his perceived value is lower than his potential value. He has some real high end skill. I'd almost rather move Rasmus Andersson because we know what we're giving up.
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Old 06-08-2017, 06:13 PM   #94
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I really don't care for the tampering rules.

I mean I get it in cases where the player is like McDavid and Treliving is talking about offer sheeting him, but in Iggy's case, here's a guy who is obviously going to be a free agent and who obviously spent 14 years in Calgary, so it's not exactly bad taste to discuss it.
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Old 06-08-2017, 06:15 PM   #95
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I really don't care for the tampering rules.

I mean I get it in cases where the player is like McDavid and Treliving is talking about offer sheeting him, but in Iggy's case, here's a guy who is obviously going to be a free agent and who obviously spent 14 years in Calgary, so it's not exactly bad taste to discuss it.
He is still technically LA's property until July 1st. While it is doubtful in Iginla's case, pending UFAs can still return picks for their rights.
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He is still technically LA's property until July 1st. While it is doubtful in Iginla's case, pending UFAs can still return picks for their rights.
Not to mention that Iginla played well for the Kings, so there's a possibility they could want to bring him back.
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Lol Iggy talk again...he doesn't want to come back. It's like your buddy who can't get over that girl who dumped him
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If Pickard is unproven then what is Kylington?
Also unproven but 5 years younger.

Trading Kylington for an unproven goalie at this point would be silly.

Packaging him for a proven #1 however, is something you'd have to consider and probably do.

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Came to read about the Treliving interview and wasted a lot of time reading a lot of stupid trade stuff that belongs elsewhere
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Well if you consider the interview as a whole, Treliving squashed a lot of trade rumours:

1) The Flames are likely drafting at #16 (so 1st rounder is not being traded)
2) Flames are not in on Ovechkin
3) Flames can't acquire players before the expansion draft
4) Flames will lose a player to the draft (ie, Brouwer)

So that basically rules out like 50% of the trade rumours.
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