per ton, kessel gives leafs list of 8 teams.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Actually, the summer is the time to make big deals with larger cap hits.

Trade deadline is the better time to get a "pick and a prospect" from teams that need NHL players to make the POs.

Heading into this deep draft, teams are getting excited about the players they may pick.

And sure, you can make a "big cap hit" deal. Maybe the Leafs can get another long term injury guy for Kessell, like they did with Clarkson. Maybe Pronger.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

It would be the same for any player on a long term big money deal. The odds of Kessel scoring at the same rate and not missing any games during the next 6 or 7 year span is pretty much zero.

But if you get Rick Nash, you're getting him in the second hslf of the contract.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

These questions don't seem to come up with any other players.

People question the value of the later years of contracts all the time. Mark Giordano is a hero in this city, and in discussions about his contract extension a lot of fans question the wisdom of a $7 mil cap hit when he's in his late 30s.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Trade deadline is the better time to get a "pick and a prospect" from teams that need NHL players to make the POs.

Heading into this deep draft, teams are getting excited about the players they may pick.

And sure, you can make a "big cap hit" deal. Maybe the Leafs can get another long term injury guy for Kessell, like they did with Clarkson. Maybe Pronger.

We see a lot of trades at the draft. There's a lot of talk of this year being particularly big.

The trade xeadline is for upcoming UFA's mostly.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

But if you get Rick Nash, you're getting him in the second hslf of the contract.

I never mentioned Rick Nash. No idea what he has to do with Kessel's contract or future.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

We see a lot of trades at the draft. There's a lot of talk of this year being particularly big.

The trade xeadline is for upcoming UFA's mostly.

You were asking why Perron got a first. It was partly because the Pens were depleted and were in a dogfight to make the POs.

No one is in a dogfight to make the POs now, and they are getting excited about the first round.

[cannon7]

Kessel's list of teams don't make much sense, assuming he wants out of TO. But if the Leafs kept $2-3M of Kessel's cap hit I can definitely see him getting a 1st and a prospect. The Leafs will have to either take some of the cap hit or take some really bad contracts to make a deal happen, though. Like Lecavalier + MacDonald or something like that.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

You were asking why Perron got a first. It was partly because the Pens were depleted and were in a dogfight to make the POs.

No one is in a dogfight to make the POs now, and they are getting excited about the first round.

Bigger trades are made in the summer. And yes, picks are traded all the time.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Kessel's list of teams don't make much sense, assuming he wants out of TO. But if the Leafs kept $2-3M of Kessel's cap hit I can definitely see him getting a 1st and a prospect. The Leafs will have to either take some of the cap hit or take some really bad contracts to make a deal happen, though. Like Lecavalier + MacDonald or something like that.

Lecalvier+ Macdonald mean Philly will get him for free financially.

Wow you guys will be astounded when he's moved if you expect the Leafs to take back over 9 million per in cap hit for years

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Bigger trades are made in the summer. And yes, picks are traded all the time.

You are missing the point.

[mhsyyc]

Interesting list. I think only Philly would be dumb enough to make a trade for Phil. Phil in Philly could be a thing

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Lecalvier+ Macdonald mean Philly will get him for free financially.

Wow you guys will be astounded when he's moved if you expect the Leafs to take back over 9 million per in cap hit for years

I can't wait until he is traded as I think you are going to be so disappointed

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

And in September's training, he had the 3rd best fitness results on the Leafs. Don't listen to the media.

lol

No wonder the Leafs are terrible.

[renny]

Always earned, never given. Phil didn't put the Flames on his list because he would never earn a spot with his crappy work ethic.

[Vinny01]

Read an article about hypothetical trades based off "rumors" for the Bleacher report (first problem) and they suggested Bennett, Hiller, 15th pick for Kessel. Must have been written by a Leafs fan

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I wouldn't do the 15th pick and Hiller, nevermind one of the Flames cornerstones of the future as well. If that's what some fans expect in return they should be ready to be disappointed.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Read an article about hypothetical trades based off "rumors" for the Bleacher report (first problem) and they suggested Bennett, Hiller, 15th pick for Kessel. Must have been written by a Leafs fan

That was right after Dougie Hamilton for Boone Jenner.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

That was right after Dougie Hamilton for Boone Jenner.

Yeah just a brutal article in general. I couldn't believe that Flames deal though the best part is if Leaf fans think they are getting that they will be so disappointed

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Read an article about hypothetical trades based off "rumors" for the Bleacher report (first problem) and they suggested Bennett, Hiller, 15th pick for Kessel. Must have been written by a Leafs fan

Hahahahahahaha, barf. Deep breath... I can't believe someone is stupid enough to even write that never mind do it.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Yeah just a brutal article in general. I couldn't believe that Flames deal though the best part is if Leaf fans think they are getting that they will be so disappointed

And Phaneuf will land them Ryan O'Reilly