The House of Cards Thread ***WARNING - SPOILERS***

[Acey]

Originally Posted by GGG

I wish netflix would change their binge model. Maybe do 3 episodes a week and release it over a month. I like being able to discuss a show while it occurs instead of not being able to talk to anyone because we are all at different points. If they released 3 episodes every Friday it would be reasonably safe to discuss spoilers on Monday from the previous episodes.

The HoC subreddit has a discussion thread for every episode, with no spoilers for forward episodes. That's where I went.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by J pold

Pretty disappointed in the 3rd season thus far. All the nuance and subtlety that made the show great is almost entirely gone and everything is spoon fed to appeal to the larger audience. The portrayal of the Putin character was almost laughable and disappointed to said to see the recycled "USA vs. big bad Russian bear" storyline rolled out.

How can you be disappointed in a "recycled" story that's pretty much playing out in current events? I'd say it's pretty on point.

Season was good. Thought every Remy / Sharp moment was a painful waste of time though.

[iLoveLamp]

Originally Posted by MattyC

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I thought he was just filling in the empty hole. Maybe I should go back and watch that part again.

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yeah you can see her hair as he's filling the hole up.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by iLoveLamp

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yeah you can see her hair as he's filling the hole up.

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He definitely killed her. He was going to all along. He tortured her by letting her live, even though he knew he was going to kill her. She was wrong about why he left her alive in the back of the van, it was his own selfish reasons.

[Flames89]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

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He definitely killed her. He was going to all along. He tortured her by letting her live, even though he knew he was going to kill her. She was wrong about why he left her alive in the back of the van, it was his own selfish reasons.

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I disagree about the torture. He didn't want to, but as he was driving away he realized "wtf am I doing. I need this chapter to be over" and turned around.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Flames89

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I disagree about the torture. He didn't want to, but as he was driving away he realized "wtf am I doing. I need this chapter to be over" and turned around.

That's exactly how I perceived it too.

[brocoli]

The ending....It's about time!!

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Flames89

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I disagree about the torture. He didn't want to, but as he was driving away he realized "wtf am I doing. I need this chapter to be over" and turned around.

Originally Posted by nik-

That's exactly how I perceived it too.

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Exactly. He knew he was going to do it the entire time. He'd been tracking her for months with the sole intention of killing her. Then, like their first encounter, he let her seduce him (this time for her freedom) and then when it was all over, went right backto his initial plan. It was a fleeting break from an otherwise calculated murder. It's not like he is torturing her for the pain, more so for his pain. Makes him feel alive, in control, separate from Underwood. In the end though, he's a calculated murderer. The way the scenes were shot made it clear, he was never going to actually let her go. As soon as she gets out of the van, you know she's dead.

[Max Cow Disease]

Great show. The most tense moments are those in which Underwood gets that "evil angry" look and goes off on someone. Season 3 features some good examples of it as he starts to lose his grip on all of the crap going on around him.

This show's tension really grabs me for some reason, due mainly to the acting and writing involving the main few characters. You're always on edge wondering what's going to happen with the Underwood marriage, or who's going to backstab who next. I find Spacey to be such a convincing two-face in the show that it's borderline unsettling.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

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Exactly. He knew he was going to do it the entire time. He'd been tracking her for months with the sole intention of killing her. Then, like their first encounter, he let her seduce him (this time for her freedom) and then when it was all over, went right backto his initial plan. It was a fleeting break from an otherwise calculated murder. It's not like he is torturing her for the pain, more so for his pain. Makes him feel alive, in control, separate from Underwood. In the end though, he's a calculated murderer. The way the scenes were shot made it clear, he was never going to actually let her go. As soon as she gets out of the van, you know she's dead.

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See I don't see it that way. I legitimately think it's as simple as she got to him and that he considered letting her live. Then while driving away the reality of the situation re-emerged so he finished her off.

[dammage79]

Finished the season.Kind of left with a meh feeling about it. Lot's of things happened but they didn't carry the weight of say Kate Mara's fate or the other guys from last season.

The Biography writer has an interesting role heading into next season.

[nik-]

I couldn't help seeing Tom as Mickey Doyle from Boardwalk and it was making me laugh all the time. I'm used to seeing Kim Dickens in things other than Deadwood, so it's not so bad ... but Doyle man, I just can't get past it.

[iLoveLamp]

Jimmi Simpson is always Liam McPoyle. Whenever he's on screen, I'm just waiting for him to crack open a carton of milk

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by nik-

I couldn't help seeing Tom as Mickey Doyle from Boardwalk and it was making me laugh all the time. I'm used to seeing Kim Dickens in things other than Deadwood, so it's not so bad ... but Doyle man, I just can't get past it.

She was in Deadwood too? Who? I knew Molly Parker was.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by dammage79

She was in Deadwood too? Who? I knew Molly Parker was.

She was Joanie the prostitute.

[dammage79]

So who does Timothy Olyphant play next season? The republican leader? Ooo! Make it Ian McShane!

EDIT: I miss Deadwood.

[MrMastodonFarm]

***Spoilers All from the 3rd Season***

An average season, I thought the 11th and 12th episodes were fantastic and high quality, and also the debate from episode 10 but besides that it just was not up to the standard set but seasons one and two. More political, more Sopranos, don't care as long as the story is a high standard, this season wasn't. Didn't feel the tension as much as others, even the dynamic between the Underwood's didn't feel right.

Kevin Spacey was great though, he really stole the show during the debate scene as well. He was so Presidential it was astonishing.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

***Spoilers All from the 3rd Season***

An average season, I thought the 11th and 12th episodes were fantastic and high quality, and also the debate from episode 10 but besides that it just was not up to the standard set but seasons one and two. More political, more Sopranos, don't care as long as the story is a high standard, this season wasn't. Didn't feel the tension as much as others, even the dynamic between the Underwood's didn't feel right.

Kevin Spacey was great though, he really stole the show during the debate scene as well. He was so Presidential it was astonishing.

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If by Presidential you mean avoided questions and clumsily guided the topics towards what he wanted to talk about. I found him super annoying in the debate. His turn on Sharpe was great, other than that I thought Dunbar destroyed both of them. Thought it would lead to her bumping him from the ticket actually.

I found the whole diary thing to be kind of just tossed in as an excuse for Dunbar to (sort of) corrupt herself. But it didn't seem like she needed to be that desperate. Looked like she had the upper hand to me.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by MattyC

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If by Presidential you mean avoided questions and clumsily guided the topics towards what he wanted to talk about. I found him super annoying in the debate. His turn on Sharpe was great, other than that I thought Dunbar destroyed both of them. Thought it would lead to her bumping him from the ticket actually.

I found the whole diary thing to be kind of just tossed in as an excuse for Dunbar to (sort of) corrupt herself. But it didn't seem like she needed to be that desperate. Looked like she had the upper hand to me.

I think that was sort of the point.

She muddied herself when she didn't have to. Underwood brought her down to his level. That scene in the whitehouse where he said she was one of the boys, making backroom deals.

She had become corrupted.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by MattyC

*** ALSO SPOILERS

If by Presidential you mean avoided questions and clumsily guided the topics towards what he wanted to talk about. I found him super annoying in the debate. His turn on Sharpe was great, other than that I thought Dunbar destroyed both of them. Thought it would lead to her bumping him from the ticket actually..

Yeah, I mean exactly that. Exactly what Presidential candidates do during debates. Kevin Spacey nailed the private and public persona of Underwood perfectly.