Israel declares war on Hamas

[Leondros]

Originally Posted by Pointman

You don't have to imagine it. Canada is a free, peaceful, democratic country. That was built on the lands, stolen from first nations, who were brutally subdued. Claiming that such things are "unimaginable" in Canada is ignorant because this is literally what Canadians did - not just said.

And you know what? Suddenly, such a brutality towards first nations did not result "more violence". It didn't bring generations and generations of indigenous people looking to exact revenge on Canadians. Instead, defeating them produced a peaceful and free country.

You’re right, just needed to wipe hundreds of thousands of people, many tribes, the loss of cultural identify of millions more, and destruction of families. Sounds pretty peaceful to me… to one side that is. Wonder what peace would have looked like had the Nazis won with your logic.

[Fuzz]

Yup, most Canadians recognize the tragedies that occurred and we are spending boatloads of money trying to atone for past mistakes. Pointing to that as how you succeed is a pretty soulless conclusion.

[Leondros]

Originally Posted by Pointman

We are not really fighting. Everyone is supporting Israel. Some guys pretend to support Palestine just to create a discussion. It's hard to come up with anything to support Palestine though, so they resort to comment on pro-Israelis posts instead.

lol, where the hell did we even find you? A guy from the other side of the world who used to live in Russia posting on a Calgary Flames forum. Looking at your posts I don’t think you’re a Flames fan or even an NHL fan? I am genuinely curious.

[Pointman]

Long list of war crimes allegedly committed by Ukrainian army in "occupied" Kursk region. It's in Russian, but you can translate in browser. Gives a good perspective on how silly propaganda looks when you know the truth.

https://m.lenta.ru/articles/2024/08/12/vsu/

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Leondros

lol, where the hell did we even find you? A guy from the other side of the world who used to live in Russia posting on a Calgary Flames forum. Looking at your posts I don’t think you’re a Flames fan or even an NHL fan? I am genuinely curious.

As you can see on my join date, I have been here for two decades. I even played CPHL at one point. I'm surely a Flames fan. I only started posting in off topic in recent years. 90% of my posts, across those years, were about hockey.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Yup, most Canadians recognize the tragedies that occurred and we are spending boatloads of money trying to atone for past mistakes. Pointing to that as how you succeed is a pretty soulless conclusion.

That's true. However, this is like stealing a bike and praying to God for forgiveness. You never packed and went back to England, gave the state back to indigenous peoples, did you?

[Zary's-Mustache]

Here comes 23 posts in a row. Please just stop.

[Zary's-Mustache]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...-gaza-intl-hnk

Amazing that this doesn't even get a thread bump anymore. 93 innocent civilians killed and it doesn't even register anymore.

Simply terrorist stuff by Israeli terrorist soldiers.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

So you support Hamas or Iran trying to take over Israel?

I mean Canada took away the indigenous peoples land and it meant peace like you said so by your argument you should support Iran wanting to defeat Israel.

Or what you posted is a bunch of bologna like usual. We all know you'd run back to Russia and be the biggest Putin supporter once again if that ever happened.

Iran took Lebanon, Gaza and most of Syria through their proxies. They built not a free democratic state, such as Canada, but rather a gangs-run poverty hell hole.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...-gaza-intl-hnk

Amazing that this doesn't even get a thread bump anymore. 93 innocent civilians killed and it doesn't even register anymore.

Simply terrorist stuff by Israeli terrorist soldiers.

War is hell. When you try to destroy a legit state by military force, this is what may happen to you. Give up the goal of destroying Israel - and you will live and prosper.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Iran took Lebanon, Gaza and most of Syria through their proxies. They built not a free democratic state, such as Canada, but rather a gangs-run poverty hell hole.

Sort of like the country you lived in your entire life eh? The country you supported and the president you supported your entire life until you were scared you were gonna be called to war. You lived in a hell hole country your entire life but now love democracy haha. You're such a hypocrite.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Sort of like the country you lived in your entire life eh? The country you supported and the president you supported your entire life until you were scared you were gonna be called to war. You lived in a hell hole country your entire life but now love democracy haha. You're such a hypocrite.

Pre-war Russia was pretty good country. Definitely better than Gaza and Lebanon.

Why you keep posting this lie (bolded part)?

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Exhibit A of why humanity is so ####ed. Back to back to back posts of absolute intentional ignorance and twisting of history to justify blatant murder, starvation, human rights abuses...


I'm sorry that Russia made you such a monster, but you don't have to continue being that way, and presumably extending the cycle of monstrosity to your children. When your arguments distill down to murdering children is the ends justifying the means, how do you even look your own children in their eyes? Despicable.

See, you know nothing about the actual Hamas-Isrsel war, so you can't post about. Hence, you post about my posts instead.

[Bagor]

Pointman in response to a post reporting 93 civilians including children and the elderly literally blown to pieces.

Originally Posted by Pointman

War is hell. When you try to destroy a legit state by military force, this is what may happen to you.

Pointman in response to a post stating that Ukraine, a legitimate state being attacked and invaded by a military force had every right to fight back and attack Russia in response.

Originally Posted by Pointman

No they don't. There's no such thing as a right to kill people. If Ukranian bombs will start to fall on the head of my two years old, do you expect me to say "Too bad, my son, it's a well-deserved punishment, our troops shouldn't have committed all those crimes". Of course not.

The world of Pointman. No such thing as a right to kill people. Except for Palestinians.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Pointman

That's true. However, this is like stealing a bike and praying to God for forgiveness. You never packed and went back to England, gave the state back to indigenous peoples, did you?

First off, I never personally did anything, this was far in the past when people didn't know better. Israel is still murdering people daily to take their land, despite that they should know better. And you cheer them on and give them legitimacy. You PERSONALLY have made yourself responsible for the current monstrous acts taking place, so you can shove any direct comparison directly up your ass. I am not like you, and will never be like you. I certainly wouldn't move form one country illegally murdering innocent people and taking land to another country illegally murdering people and taking land, and pretend I'm sitting on some moral high ground where I finger wag terrible things that happened elsewhere hundreds of years ago as some sick justification for continuing to do it today.

Second, you seem to have zero understanding of Canada, indigenous relations, or reconciliation. If you did, you might realize how ridiculous the comparison is. I'd try to help you understand, but it's a total waste of time at this point. Monsters can't comprehend, it seems.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Pointman

See, you know nothing about the actual Hamas-Isrsel war, so you can't post about. Hence, you post about my posts instead.

You are part of this war, encouraging it. Your lack of humanity is pretty valid target.

[ThePrince]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Pointman in response to a post reporting 93 civilians including children and the elderly literally blown to pieces.



Pointman in response to a post stating that Ukraine, a legitimate state being attacked and invaded by a military force had every right to fight back and attack Russia in response.



The world of Pointman. No such thing as a right to kill people. Except for Palestinians.

This isn’t surprising when you understand that these aren’t statements he would look at as hypocritical. When you believe that an Israeli life is more valuable than a Palestinian life, these statements are totally consistent.

At this point, he’s not even pretending - he’s openly saying that all we’re seeing is modern colonization at play, and it’s Israel’s “white man’s burden” to tame the “savages” that are Palestinians.

I’m not sure why people keep engaging with someone who would clearly rather see all Palestinians wiped off the earth than a peaceful resolution. We are all providing him a platform to espouse his twisted and disgusting views.

[Bagor]

Israeli soldiers are using Palestinian civilians as human shields in Gaza to enter and clear tunnels and buildings they suspect may have been booby-trapped, a leading Israeli NGO and newspaper have reported.

The practice was so widespread across different units fighting in Gaza that it could in effect be considered a “protocol”, said Nadav Weiman, the executive director of Breaking the Silence, a group founded by Israeli combat veterans to document military abuses.

The group has collected testimony describing the practice from veterans of the 10-month war in Gaza. The accounts they have heard match those reported in an investigation by the newspaper Haaretz, which claimed that the chief of staff’s office was aware of the practice.

“The senior ranks know about it,” one source said to have taken part in finding civilians to serve as human shields told the paper. “Our lives are more important than their lives,” Haaretz quoted commanders telling their soldiers.

The practice is said to be so routine that Israeli soldiers have a name for the human shields, who are referred to as shawish – informal slang for a low-ranking soldier – and the process was described by several witnesses.

Palestinian civilians, mostly young men, are picked up by Israeli soldiers, dressed in Israeli army uniforms, then sent into tunnels and damaged houses ahead of Israeli forces, soldiers told Haaretz and Breaking the Silence.

Their hands are tied together and a camera is attached to their bodies as they go in. “Palestinians are told: ‘Do one mission of … a [tunnel] shaft and you’re free,’” Haaretz quoted one soldier saying.

Afterwards, the men are reportedly released to join their families – underlining to the soldiers who spoke to Haaretz and Breaking the Silence that they were civilians who did not pose any military threat and had been detained only for the clearance operations.

Footage of Palestinian civilians, including some in IDF uniform, being sent into devastated buildings was obtained by Al Jazeera and broadcast in July.

Breaking the Silence said it had heard reports of civilians being used as human shields from the early stages of the war in Gaza. Initially it said it thought it had been one commander acting illegally, but testimony started coming in from soldiers stationed across the territory.

“We heard it from different units, fighting in different times and different places inside Gaza,” Weiman said. “Then we understood it’s something a lot more widespread – or even, I could say, a protocol – in the IDF.”

One soldier had been told Palestinian civilians were being used to replace the dog units that search for explosives “because too many dogs had died”, he added

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ar...le-booby-traps

[Zary's-Mustache]

Israel is without a doubt a terrorist state. Every single Israeli soldier is a terrorist.

Just watched a video of an injured palestinian tied to the hood of an Israeli vehicle being paraded around. Scumbags, every single one of them.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Pointman in response to a post reporting 93 civilians including children and the elderly literally blown to pieces.



Pointman in response to a post stating that Ukraine, a legitimate state being attacked and invaded by a military force had every right to fight back and attack Russia in response.



The world of Pointman. No such thing as a right to kill people. Except for Palestinians.

See, you still can't add anything to the actual topic, so you are discussing me instead. My responses are quite consistent. There's no such thing, as "a right to kill people", including Palestinians. It's a war. Each party is trying to kill the enemy, and resist being killed.