The Camping Liquor Ban

[Phaneuf3]

Originally Posted by CMPunk

In some places, yes

Yes but how thoroughly? You underestimate some people's need to have beer while camping. Shopping list for the long weekend:

[mikey_the_redneck]

Yikes...

I would never go camping with you..

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by J-bo09

but the people going out on May Long weekend not to drink need to maybe pick a better weekend.

So what you are saying is that the long weekend belongs to the heavy drinkers/ partiers? Why is that?

I often camp on long weekends because I have the extra time off, and so do my friends. If we want to go camping it's very easy to just pick a long weekend and plan it then. What you are suggesting is that for some reason we should all be trying to book extra vacation days so that the rowdies can have their fun.

[Antithesis]

Originally Posted by J-bo09

My 2 cents:

An over-reaction to places that have become notoriously bad (Ie Maclean Creek / Wipress)

For those complaining about the drinking and camping I understand the concern, but the people going out on May Long weekend not to drink need to maybe pick a better weekend. As long as I have been alive Canadians have gone camping this weekend..and they will drink.

My $0.02 is that the first part of this quote is the more reasonable part of your post, but I don't think that you really thought the bottom part through thoroughly enough (at best). Why is this such a big deal? They've singled out 10 campgrounds in the entire province for this ban, out of, according to this thread, over 600. That's like 1.6% of the campgrounds in the province. I don't think that's a huge burden to put on anyone. Now, if someone like myself who isn't a big drinker went to one of the other 590+ campgrounds and complained about rowdies, that's being unreasonable. This ban isn't.

[socktape]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Even if you went to a so called "dry" campground, I'm sure you can just bring whatever booze you want and enjoy it in a calm fashion.
I would....
Just don't draw attention to yourself is all.

What are they gonna do search you?

When I was a younger lad living in Lloydminster the big thing for May long was to go up to a bunch of lakes that were north and east of Lloyd. There wasn't a liqour ban back then, but if the RCMP caught you with more booze coming over the provincial border than you were allowed then they would dump it. They used to search you on the highway coming into the lakes area. Saw a couple kegs being dumped. Stupid people. All they had to do was buy the alcohol on the Saskatchewan side of Lloyd.

That being said, as a parent now, I'd rather go to one of these campgrounds now that are dry. Dealing with two young boys after they've been kept up til 3 am by someone partying nearby is not my idea of fun. I send them over by their campsite at 6:00am with their bikes and bike horns. I can't fault them for wanting to cut loose or have a couple beer with/after supper, I did it myself, but the partying till the wee hours when the sound carries so well is pretty inconsiderate to all the other campers in the area.

[Poison]

I dont know why they cant just come up with the simple solution, i thought of it in 2 minutes after this was announced.

Take each campground and have a section for the families and non-drinkers and make that booze free and have the other section where you can have liquor.

Thatll keep the noise and so called "rowdies" on one side and the families on another.
Have more monitoring on the rowdy side and all should be well.

Case closed, whats the prob here?

[4X4]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Why are you equating having a few drinks to getting "blasted"? The MAJORITY of cmapers do NOT cause problems, it is a small few that do, yet the government is going to BAN the consumption of alcohol instead of dealing with the idiots.

It is quite simple, if someone breaks the law by causing a disturbance, they either get kicked out of the campground or get arrested. If the authorities acutally cracked down on this behaviour it would stop pretty fast.

I think banning alcohol consumption at these camp grounds does nothing but push the problem to other camp grounds. The government needs to deal with the problem no different than dealing with your neigbour who is having a bunch of drinks over in the back yard around a camp fire. There really is NO difference.

I think you misunderstood my post.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Poison

I dont know why they cant just come up with the simple solution, i thought of it in 2 minutes after this was announced.

Take each campground and have a section for the families and non-drinkers and make that booze free and have the other section where you can have liquor.

Thatll keep the noise and so called "rowdies" on one side and the families on another.
Have more monitoring on the rowdy side and all should be well.

Case closed, whats the prob here?

The families will still hear the rowdies.

[alltherage]

What bothers me most about this is their way of enforcing it as I heard on CJAY92. They had a spokesperson on and she was saying they are going to be searchign vehicles for alcohol.

That means even if you have a 6 pack to drink over your 3 days, it's getting confiscated.

The other thing that bothers me is, yes, fine there are other camp sites. Great- most people find a campsite they love, even a spot in said campsite that they love, and try to go there every time.

So now you have people who have been meeting at campsite A for 5 years, 10 years, what have you- and this ban basically ruins it for them because they have to choose a new location that they havent been to before etc.

I just don't understand how things like this get passed without a word going out to the public. From this thread alone you can see that people are polarized on this issue, yet noone knows a thing about it until it's passed.

So next year, people who enjoy beer camping need to go lobby the gov't to eff off and let us have our beer? Maybe we should quietly lobby them to ban kids from certain sites, and see how all these parents like beeing banished from their favorite spots because of a few brats?

[old-fart]

I recall going camping in BC several years ago to a provincial campground and they all had a "no booze" rule. We still brought some beers or what-not and drank quietly around our campfire. We even had the park warden come over and hang out for a bit during the evening. No tickets were issued and everyone had a grand time.

This isn't designed to ticket the average person sitting around a campfire quietly drinking a beer from a cup. It's designed to crack down on the drunken morons who believe that there own fun is the most important thing regardless of who else might be camped near them. Those same idiots who are screaming through the park at 3am, singing at the top of their lungs, and leaving their litter all over for others to clean up. Throw the book at those tools.

[Poison]

Originally Posted by troutman

The families will still hear the rowdies.

The rowdies will still hear the kids, whats your point?

As long as one group doesnt interfere with the other noise shouldnt be something to quash this idea, it goes both ways.

[Phaneuf3]

Originally Posted by troutman

The families will still hear the rowdies.

Well how about this then... Instead of splitting the campground into two sections - one drinking and one not - lets designate a couple campgrounds (maybe about 10) that are dry. If you don't want booze and just a family outing undisturbed by noisy drunks, you can go to one of those 10 campgrounds.

Bam! Simple, easy and keeps everyone happy. I don't know why nobody thought of this before; I'm just brilliant I guess. The government should really put me on their payroll.

[Poison]

I thought of that as well Phaneuf but im sure the retort will be "what if one of these campgrounds that i like going to will be a drinking campground, not fair for me and my family to be kept out of it" blah blah blah.

Thats why i think each campground needs to be split.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Poison

The rowdies will still hear the kids, whats your point?

Not at 4:00 am. WOOOOOO!

[Poison]

Originally Posted by troutman

Not at 4:00 am. WOOOOOO!

As opposed to 7 am? The difference is three hours.....

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Poison

As opposed to 7 am? The difference is three hours.....

. . . and the sun is up . . .

[Poison]

Originally Posted by troutman

. . . and the sun is up . . .

Well then, i guess i must concede with that logic....

[theExpendable]

They did the same thing last May long too. All we did was put it into a coffee mug and kept the emties in our trailor. We were never bothered, but then again we didnt act llike dumbies out there. The RCMP have their hands full with the dumbies and dont have time to bother the "quite" people

[red sky]

Originally Posted by flamesfanmicheal

They did the same thing last May long too. All we did was put it into a coffee mug and kept the emties in our trailor. We were never bothered, but then again we didnt act llike dumbies out there. The RCMP have their hands full with the dumbies and dont have time to bother the "quite" people

Quite what? I need to know, the suspense is killing me?

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by 4X4

I think you misunderstood my post.

I wasn't really directing it at you I was just trying to make a point.

Carry on then.