Brazil girl, alleged rape victim, aborts twins

[FlamesAddiction]

As a religious organization, they have a right to discommunicate anyone they want, so who cares really? I'm guessing that the majority of the people here are not in the church, but they sure have made it their priority to talk about how much they hate it. I put it right up there with people who freak out about things like gay marriage.

The only problem I have with the decision is that 9 year olds typically don't make their own decisions. It's hard to hold her accountable. The doctors, sure.

[MarchHare]

As a religious organization, they have a right to discommunicate anyone they want, so who cares really?

I would imagine the people who were excommunicated care, especially since they live in a country as deeply religious (and specifically Catholic) as Brazil.

The only problem I have with the decision is that 9 year olds typically don't make their own decisions. It's hard to hold her accountable. The doctors, sure.

The girl wasn't excommunicated because she was too young to make that decision herself. That sentence -- the harshest punishment handed out by the Church -- was only given to her mother and doctors...but not her rapist.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

As a religious organization, they have a right to discommunicate anyone they want, so who cares really? I'm guessing that the majority of the people here are not in the church, but they sure have made it their priority to talk about how much they hate it. I put it right up there with people who freak out about things like gay marriage.

The only problem I have with the decision is that 9 year olds typically don't make their own decisions. It's hard to hold her accountable. The doctors, sure.

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with their right to excommunicate people from their religion. To be honest I don't think anyone cares. The outrage is coming against an organization that tells everyone that they are the moral high ground and yet are completely hypocritical when it comes to morals. I don't remember them excommunicating all the child abusing priests. Sure they have the right to excommunicate anyone they want to, but if they are going to keep telling everyone that they are the moral authority then deserve all the flack they get.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by Burninator

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with their right to excommunicate people from their religion. To be honest I don't think anyone cares. The outrage is coming against an organization that tells everyone that they are the moral high ground and yet are completely hypocritical when it comes to morals. I don't remember them excommunicating all the child abusing priests. Sure they have the right to excommunicate anyone they want to, but if they are going to keep telling everyone that they are the moral authority then deserve all the flack they get.

The Supreme court ruled that the death penalty for a conviction of 1st degree murder is permissible, a ruling of death penalty for raping a child is not.

"Rape is without doubt deserving of serious punishment; but in terms of moral depravity and of the injury to the person and to the public, it does not compare with murder, which does involve the unjustified taking of human life. Although it may be accompanied by another crime, rape by definition does not include the death of ... another person. The murderer kills; the rapist, if no more than that, does not... . We have the abiding conviction that the death penalty, which 'is unique in its severity and irrevocability,'

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...0&invol=07-343

The only difference I see is the Church believes an unborn infant deserves the same protection as an "actual" person.

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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Boy aren't you the enlightened tolerant one.

If I was still a member of the church and you decided to attack my belief structure based on what you believe in I'd tell you to get lost. And its not like you make it sound like you have any sort of respect for others at all. Lets see what terms are in there, you tell them that something that they are obviously dedicated to and believe in strongly is a scam or a cult, you call it dribble and nonsense. You basically attack them.

If you don't believe in it fine, whatever but stfu and keep your opinions to yourself, they don't want to hear it.

Why should I keep my opinions to myself? They have tried to convert me about 10 times, and I can't even throw a piece of food out because they b!tch about me how god gave me that food. Do I want to hear that god gave life to people who rape others, no.

They can believe what they want, and prey to who ever they want to, but when they get me involved, and waste their time praying on the job while I work, then it is my problem, and I couldn't give a crap what they believe.

[Devils'Advocate]

I'm confused. If I read my Deuteronomy 22:29 correctly, the stepfather has to pay 50 silver shekels to the child's father as penance for the rape. So does the stepfather owe the 50 shekels (worth about $500) to the biological father? And does the rapist have to divorce his current wife to marry the 9 year old?