The North American Currency Union (Amero)

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

^uhhh what? did you quote the wrong post?

Fixed, thanks

[HotHotHeat]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I am actually tempted to get into this with you, but I'm pretty sure it's already been hashed and rehashed again the past little while.

I'm actually surprised it took this thread this long to get to this point =-o.

I was being sarcastic. What are you referring to?

[chris lindberg]

Amero Quotes

"But Finance officials tell Mr. Flaherty that a common currency would mean an erosion of sovereignty for Canada. That's because, they say, it would ultimately mean Canada abandoning an independent monetary policy and therefore its ability to directly influence economic conditions within its borders."

"Creating the amero will be presented to the American public as the administration's solution for dollar recovery. In the process of creating the amero [and the North American Union exposed by Lou Dobbs and Congressman Ron Paul], the Bush administration just abandons the dollar."

"I believe that the value of Federal Reserve Notes is going to be manipulated in such a fashion that it makes it easy for the central bankers to implement the Amero. If they continue to inflate the currency and escalate a currency crisis, they can
more easily gain public support to introduce a new currency. Either way, the Amero is a
terrible idea. It is going to be an entirely fiat currency which will help further consolidate power to the banking cartel. It will give them control over the entire North American region through their power of currency creation."

"Along with the Amero, a limited access highway is being mapped out from the southern border of Texas to access Canada's southern border via Chicago. Now you can see why Illegal Immigration is a non-issue for th US Federal Government. Mexico supplying cheap labor to all businesses of the U.S. and Canada will depress the value of American and Canadian citizens' labor. Eventually creating a "serf society" of our children, of all the citizenry, one step above slaves. Except for the business owners and politicians."

"Be advised that there is a lot of code and doublespeak in these articles. Few of the more elaborate articles discuss the disadvantages to the U.S., but concentrate on the advantages to Canada and Mexico. The most significant and timely aspect of the movement involves current U.S. participation in a elaborate international program called the ‘Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America’..."

"The problem is that to get it to work, US and Canadian working class people must lower their standards of living to match working class living standards in Mexico. According to every prediction I've ever heard, it will take 12 years of economic near-chaos to balance out the living standard discrepancy. Maybe this is why immigration is such a non-issue to some people in power - they figure if we're headed toward this situation, then why bother kicking out people who are going to just turn right around and come back under the North American Union?"

"Dear Steve just the other night on TV Lou Dobbbs was outraged at how the USA is being melded into a union with Mexico and Canada without Congressional oversight, citizen knowledge or approval and without any legislation and occurring thru rules, regulations, codes and practices. It is the subject on both current networks, late night radio and articles which you have avoided encountering so far Steve. The Amero was a trial balloon and a curiosity which is a way of introducing something new casually. Remember the adage WHITE MAN SPEAKS WITH FORKED TONGUE. Your being seduced and abandoned kiddo."

http://www.fdrs.org/amero_quotes.html

Would the citizens of Canada really take to the streets to protest against the Amero, it seems to me that not enough young people care about what's going on, how many young people even vote, maybe half?

[HotHotHeat]

You can't assume that about the youth vote anymore. Voting is now the 'cool' thing to do.

That article is great. The viewpoint pretty much proves the Fed is lowering the value of American currency on purpose...Not just for this reason, but that's part of it.

[Blaster86]

To be honest a lot of young people I know are already against this, me being one of them. I just don't see the Canadian public taking to this one, especially if you play up the loss of the Canadian identity.

[chris lindberg]

Watching the CTV news last night, they had a story on how we Canadians are paying on average 20% for items than the Americans, some prices on shoes were $90 there and $160 in Canada, Monopoly games and a lot of toys were also 40% more in Canada.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by Sowa

Well truthfully (and I might get called an arrogant American for this) European countries have all pretty much been emulating America as well so whether you are directly saying you emulate the US or take an extra step it doesn't really matter.

ROTFLMAO

You can't be serious!

How is the EU ANYTHING like the US?

Foreign policy - nothing like the US
Social policy (such as healthcare) - nothing like the US
Labour law - nothing like the US

[Itse]

My guess is that you could make almost as much of a case for US emulating Canada than the other way around.

Hey, hockey is growing in California, clearly a sign of canadization? How about all the talk for universal healthcare?

And Pizza Huts in India? Last I checked, pizza was from Italy.

It's called globalization. The more contact we have with each other, the more we become alike. The US already has so many influences from all around the world, that it's actually pretty hard to call most of their exported influence anything but global trends.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

I'd argue Vancouver has a huge capitalist, elitist culture. It's more hidden because of the strong social equality movement, but there is a lot of money and social hierarchy in Vancouver.

Singapore has lots of money and a "social hierarchy". Are they pretend Americans there too?

Canadians and Americans share many similarities. So do Canadians and Australians, New Zealanders, and Brits - because we all live in First World, mainly English-speaking democracies, that originally sprung from British colonies. It'd be surprising if we all WEREN'T much alike; but still similar does not mean "same".

[chris lindberg]

Hey CalgaryPuck, thanks a lot for all your input, much appreciated!

I'll be making a handout for the class to read as my seminar is due next friday
I have found some more info on what exactly a seminar is...

- encourage meaningful discussion
- all participants understand the problem, come up with a solution
- we become experts on our topic
- find ways to stimulate conversation and sharing of knowledge
- maybe a quiz, game, video clip, puzzle, or list of questions for all to contemplate
- purpose is to share knowledge
- keep interesting, get everyone involved
- the seminar discussion can go many different directions
- give them a one page handout in advance
- I'll also ask my class in advance to watch a utube video on the Amero