2007 NFL Season Thread

[browna]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

After what they did today, I'm not sure the Giants are overhyped media darlings. Before today, I would've agreed. Watching them come back in Philadelphia was impressive.

I still think Seattle wins that game by virtue of a much superior defense. Branch should help them by then too.

Its just been in general the last few years...the Giants can do little wrong. Their rivalries, and, being basically on par with the Eagles, Cowboys, and Redskins have something to do with it, and although all those divison games are big draws for eastern TV, the Giants seem to get more credit and press (outside of Owens on the Eagles and Cowboys) then any of those other teams in that division.

That said, today, their comeback was more about the Eagles handing the game to them, then them winning. Nevermind the turnovers in the 4th, and the poor defense after hemming in the Giants on thier own 20 with under a minute, the lineman kicking the Giants lineman turns a 50+yd FG attempt to just over 35 yd attempt.

Back to Seattle...2 Sundays nights from now, the Bears/Seahawks should be a dandy. I was hoping the Seahawks to play the Bears in the NFC Championship game (I thought they had a better chance of beating them then the Panthers), but now, with the Bears offense seeming to be an actual legitimate going concern, it will be a pretty good matchup.

[FlamingLonghorn]

I'm just excited my Jets aren't going to to be as bad as everyone thought they were. Pennington looks like he can be a pro bowler again if he stays healthy and there doing all this without a running back. I predict 8-8 for the J-E-T-S....

Meanwhile my fantasy team is winning me some bucks...

High points the last two weeks... I've made $100 already and I am way ahead, I know its early but our prize is $1500 and I think I've definitely got the team to do it. Luckily I waited til the 9th round to pick a QB and good ol' McNabb had slid that far...

[Sylvanfan]

Well didn't get a chance to watch any games yesterday, but based on results this is what I'll add.

Chiefs play the best game they've played in Denver in about 8 years and still can't win. I agree with Dis that their defence is actually much improved this year. In fact I'll go so far as to suggest that defence is going to have to win that team any games it wins this year. That offence isn't doing much with one TD in 2 games.

Raiders, yeah they are terrible. I think they actually have a decent defence, but that offence is doing so much to lose them games it's actually pretty funny.

Red Skins hype machine fails once again.

Impressive start for the Vikings in my mind against two pretty tough games. Don't know if they'll keep up with the Bears, but I think they can make the playoffs.

49'ers are not going to be a pushover. They may only go 6-10 but they'll stick around in every game. Come next year they could be back in the playoffs.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Well didn't get a chance to watch any games yesterday, but based on results this is what I'll add.

Chiefs play the best game they've played in Denver in about 8 years and still can't win. I agree with Dis that their defence is actually much improved this year. In fact I'll go so far as to suggest that defence is going to have to win that team any games it wins this year. That offence isn't doing much with one TD in 2 games.

Raiders, yeah they are terrible. I think they actually have a decent defence, but that offence is doing so much to lose them games it's actually pretty funny.

Red Skins hype machine fails once again.

Impressive start for the Vikings in my mind against two pretty tough games. Don't know if they'll keep up with the Bears, but I think they can make the playoffs.

49'ers are not going to be a pushover. They may only go 6-10 but they'll stick around in every game. Come next year they could be back in the playoffs.

The Chiefs impressed the heck out of me. Sure it isn't as exciting to watch as the Vermeil era, but that was one solid effort. It was like going back to Marty ball in the 90's. The defense was very impressive, no Denver bootlegs either. The offense all though very conservative played good enough to win. Maybe the season isn't a right off after all.

As for Chicago, they do look impressive, but they havn't played a proven opponet yet either. Minnesota has won two tough games. Maybe Carolina was just over hyped.

[Saint Troy]

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

The Chiefs impressed the heck out of me. Sure it isn't as exciting to watch as the Vermeil era, but that was one solid effort. It was like going back to Marty ball in the 90's. The defense was very impressive, no Denver bootlegs either. The offense all though very conservative played good enough to win. Maybe the season isn't a right off after all.

As for Chicago, they do look impressive, but they havn't played a proven opponet yet either. Minnesota has won two tough games. Maybe Carolina was just over hyped.

The Chiefs had that game won if Huard doesn't catch his own pass on a deflection, and proceed to fumble. Carolina will be in pretty tough, the NFC south cross overs are brutal this season, and if Jon Fox continues with brain fart calls (Gamble pass back return=turnover) it could be a long year (I hope).

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Saint Troy

The Chiefs had that game won if Huard doesn't catch his own pass on a deflection, and proceed to fumble. Carolina will be in pretty tough, the NFC south cross overs are brutal this season, and if Jon Fox continues with brain fart calls (Gamble pass back return=turnover) it could be a long year (I hope).

The fumble on the goal line hurt as well. But it was so early in the game I didn't worry that much about it at the time.

[Sylvanfan]

Well fumbling and turning the ball over at any time isn't a good thing. LJ was pretty good for it last year, but lets face it few backs will ever take care of the ball the way Priest Holmes did when he was the Chiefs main back. If only it was possible to have this years defence and couple it with the offence the Chiefs had in 2003 than you have a team. At 0-2 this Chief team isn't good enough to come back and get back in playoff contention. 1 playoff appearance in what will be 8 years tells me Carl Peterson should get the axe.

[CaramonLS]

How about Colquitt and those coffin corners, talk about 2 of the best punts you are ever going to see.

Shocks me how more teams don't try to do that.

I think the Loss of a guy like Al Saunders can't be stated enough. You had one of the best offenses in the league the last couple years and you lose the OC, granted he is one of the top or the top OC in the league, but I mean when you've got something great going, you have to fork out that extra money to keep a guy like that.

But I do agree with Sylvan, it doesn't matter if the Defense is stopping guys now. Green even before that concussion was probably thinking retirement soon enough. One playoff team in 8 years. Too bad you couldn't even put together even a half decent defense one of those seasons. The Window is pretty much closed on the offensive side of the ball at least.

[Sylvanfan]

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No question the loss of Al Saunders is huge. It would have been great to keep him, but billion dollar baby Daniel Snyder would have proably kept upping the anti until he got Saunders to run the Skins offence. So not only is the head coach different, but so is the guy trying to run the offence and with the age of most of the Chiefs offensive guys trying to change systems isn't easy. But yeah, the age of the Chiefs offence was certainly a big concern going into the season, and I think a complete overhaul may be in the cards this coming off season. Strangely the Chiefs who would seem a small market team went from being one of the NFL's more consistant playoff teams in the early 90's pre-cap era have become one of the leagues perennial also rans in the capped era where one would think they should do better.

Carl Peterson...step into my office because you're ****ing fired!

I also agree that I don't know why more NFL teams don't try angling the ball towards the sidelines. Pretty impressive to have that many punts and only that many return yards against.

[Sylvanfan]

Well I thought last week looked pretty straight forward with quite a few mismatches for us to get fat on in our pick pool. Looking at this coming week, I didn't see a hell of a lot I felt confident with. Outside of Baltimore being able to manhandle Cleveland, I had to put 12 and 13 points on teams who are currently 0-2. It really looked that tough to me.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Well I thought last week looked pretty straight forward with quite a few mismatches for us to get fat on in our pick pool. Looking at this coming week, I didn't see a hell of a lot I felt confident with. Outside of Baltimore being able to manhandle Cleveland, I had to put 12 and 13 points on teams who are currently 0-2. It really looked that tough to me.

I haven't done mine, but I glanced at them.

Wow, that is going to be some seriously tough picks.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

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No question the loss of Al Saunders is huge. It would have been great to keep him, but billion dollar baby Daniel Snyder would have proably kept upping the anti until he got Saunders to run the Skins offence. So not only is the head coach different, but so is the guy trying to run the offence and with the age of most of the Chiefs offensive guys trying to change systems isn't easy. But yeah, the age of the Chiefs offence was certainly a big concern going into the season, and I think a complete overhaul may be in the cards this coming off season. Strangely the Chiefs who would seem a small market team went from being one of the NFL's more consistant playoff teams in the early 90's pre-cap era have become one of the leagues perennial also rans in the capped era where one would think they should do better.

Carl Peterson...step into my office because you're ****ing fired!

I also agree that I don't know why more NFL teams don't try angling the ball towards the sidelines. Pretty impressive to have that many punts and only that many return yards against.

I don't think Lamar Hunt will ever fire Carl Peterson. Before Carl started the Chiefs were a laughing stock averaging less than 30,000 people a game. Now the stadium is allways full and is considered one of the best, if not the best atmosphere's in the league on game day. That being said it is tough to watch this team sit there and spin its wheels year after year. There has to be patience anytime you have a coaching change. The fact that the starting left tackle pulled the plug on the team on the eve of training camp didn't help either. Not that the entire team needs to depend on one man. I have all the confidance in the world in Trent Green. He has proven himself time after time. But not even the greatest QB in the world can be effective when he is laying on his back. This team needs to be conservative, play tough defense and speacil teams, and not make any turnovers.

[troutman]

Are the Jaguars for real, or was Ben just really rusty?

[Sylvanfan]

I think Ben was a touch rusty, but that Jacksonville defence is for real. Jacksonville is a pretty physical team, and they have the ability to dominate at home. In the past couple of years they've also played the Colts as tough as anyone in the AFC not named the Pats. I think the game of the week this coming week is that Colts hosting the Jags. I'm still not sure who will win the AFC South between these two teams, but this weekend will tell us a lot.

Maybe this week is so tough because you loose three teams you can usually bank on to produce a guaranteed result. You can put 16 and 15 points on the Raiders and Chiefs to lose, and 14 on the Chargers to win!

[Bobblehead]

And Billy Volek is a Charger.

I wonder if this means Volek is resigned to being a backup, or if he waived his no-trade clause just to get away from the Titans?

He shouldn't see much playing time behind Rivers. If Rivers was good enough that the Charges let Brees go (I know, shoulder injury, but that hasn't slowed Brees down so far), and Rivers hasn't looked out of place at all, so I can't see Volek seeing the field for anything other than an injury replacement.

[Sylvanfan]

If anything it forces a couple of divisional opponets to have to stick with the backups they have for their injured starters. So it gives the Bolts some insurance, and potentially weakens opponents that they have 3 more games against.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Definitely a tough week for picks.

I like a couple of home dogs though.

Volek will be a back up, no question.

Ben was rusty, but Jacksonville is a solid team. Very good defense and an offense that's good enough to get them into the playoffs. I think they are a wildcard.

[Saint Troy]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

And Billy Volek is a Charger.

I wonder if this means Volek is resigned to being a backup, or if he waived his no-trade clause just to get away from the Titans?

He shouldn't see much playing time behind Rivers. If Rivers was good enough that the Charges let Brees go (I know, shoulder injury, but that hasn't slowed Brees down so far), and Rivers hasn't looked out of place at all, so I can't see Volek seeing the field for anything other than an injury replacement.

With the defence the Chargers have, it's a very basic offence that Rivers has to run, give the ball to Tomlinson 25-30 times, short passing routes etc...Volek will be strictly backup unless injuries happen, something funny must have gone on behind the scenes for him to fall out of favour that fast in Tennessee, as the plan was for Young to apprentice for a year anyway. Boy it sure didn't take long for the Titans to freefall due to cap hell.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Definitely a tough week for picks.

I like a couple of home dogs though.

Volek will be a back up, no question.

Ben was rusty, but Jacksonville is a solid team. Very good defense and an offense that's good enough to get them into the playoffs. I think they are a wildcard.

I think Jags are going to represent the AFC this year... I have a little homer for them in me b/c ever since Leftwich won a game in the last couple minutes against Akron with an injured leg as his teammates carried him from play to play, he's been my fav non-Jet player. I think they prove that they are the best in the A against Indy this week.

BTW... Anyone see that catch and run by Cotchery of the Jets this week has to be one of the best TD's I have seen in a while...

youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pwAk7-Dv-U

they had a better replay on espn that showed for sure his knee never touched

[burn_baby_burn]

The Jags have played the Colts hard recently. Should be a good game.

Sylvanfan, I'm disapointed that you think the Chiefs are a guaranteed lock to lose every week. They may not have the offense, but at least they have a defense now. Even when the offense was great, the D was so bad the game was still a coin flip. I think the 9ers will be hard pressed to pull off a win in Arrowhead.