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Old 08-23-2020, 06:17 AM   #61
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This organization has had hot goalie prospect after hot goalie prospect. It's not for a lack of trying, I actually think they have done a really good job of drafting the position plus showing a knack of identifying quality European guys.

None of them have panned out, don't know if it's coaching or what.
Development and coaching has a lot to do with it.

Ian Clark is one of the top goalie coaches in the world. When Bobrovsky was in Columbus, Clark helped to evolve him into a Vezina level goalie. Then he went to Vancouver and took a goalie that cleared waivers in Markstrom and turned him into a top tier starter.

What we really need is a guy like Ian Clark who can unlock the potential of Rittich and our prospects.
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Old 08-23-2020, 07:11 AM   #62
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Talbot is excellent for his prize. Whether you want to take your chances with Rittich or try signing a more proven goalie is IMO a matter of debate, but at this point keeping Talbot seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:13 PM   #63
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With the rumors floating around of multiple goalies being potentially available through trade or free agency, should Calgary target any one?
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:33 PM   #64
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From Frank Seravalli on TSN today: https://www.tsn.ca/jake-allen-trade-...airs-1.1518384

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The Penguins are believed to have one standing offer on the table for two-time Cup winner Murray. The Maple Leafs, Oilers, Flames, Senators, Sabres and maybe even Avalanche are among the potential suitors for Murray’s services – a list that may soon grow.
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:34 PM   #65
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With the rumors floating around of multiple goalies being potentially available through trade or free agency, should Calgary target any one?
Yes, Calgary should target anyone
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:37 PM   #66
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Get all of the goalies!

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Old 09-03-2020, 03:39 PM   #67
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I don't get the preoccupation with the goalie carousel. Mike Smith was fine in the playoffs vs Colorado. Talbot was fine in the playoffs too. They're not losing because of goaltending.

The number one issue is a franchise quality center. It's been a glaring hole since December 19, 1995. So for 25-years...and counting...
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:43 PM   #68
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I don't get the preoccupation with the goalie carousel. Mike Smith was fine in the playoffs vs Colorado. Talbot was fine in the playoffs too. They're not losing because of goaltending.

The number one issue is a franchise quality center. It's been a glaring hole since December 19, 1995. So for 25-years...and counting...
Couldn't disagree more.

I'm against the acquisition of any goaltender who is over 30.

The Flames need stability in net. At least Murray is young and has a track record. It's just too bad he has injury problems and has regressed.

It's too bad the Flames already missed out on Lehner, Andersen, and Philipp Grubauer, all goalies who have moved while Treliving has been the GM of the Flames.
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:47 PM   #69
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Couldn't disagree more.

I'm against the acquisition of any goaltender who is over 30.

The Flames need stability in net. At least Murray is young and has a track record. It's just too bad he has injury problems and has regressed.

It's too bad the Flames already missed out on Lehner, Andersen, and Philipp Grubauer, all goalies who have moved while Treliving has been the GM of the Flames.
I don't think Grubauer is all that good. I mean, he's fine, but certainly not of the same calibre as Lehner and Andersen.
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I don't think Grubauer is all that good. I mean, he's fine, but certainly not of the same calibre as Lehner and Andersen.
And leafs fans I know aren’t high on Andersen.
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Old 09-03-2020, 08:17 PM   #71
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If we can get Matt Murray, we should. I don’t care if he’s ‘regressed’- Fleury had a rough few years too, he’s still a Hall of Fame goalie.

Murray’s best can win two Cups.

Get him.
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Old 09-03-2020, 09:00 PM   #72
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If we can get Matt Murray, we should. I don’t care if he’s ‘regressed’- Fleury had a rough few years too, he’s still a Hall of Fame goalie.

Murray’s best can win two Cups.

Get him.
Murrays best can hold you in it while Crosby/Malkin/Letang/Kessel win you two cups.

No thanks, reminds me of Jones from San Jose when their is a good team ahead hes ok, when the team regresses they're F'ed
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Honestly, who the ###### picks Mason freakin' MacDonald, when Thatcher Demko is on the board?
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Honestly, who the ###### picks Mason freakin' MacDonald, when Thatcher Demko is on the board?
Brian Burke
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the big unknown with Murray is injuries...
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Old 09-03-2020, 10:24 PM   #76
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If Lehner can't be signed, Giorgiev or Murray please.
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Old 09-03-2020, 10:35 PM   #77
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Wasn't the GM then. Conjecture as to how much control he actually had over the scouts when Tre had been on board for 2 months at the time.

Was it Burke, or the guy who still hasn't found a single decent goalie in 6 years? You be the judge.
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Wasn't the GM then. Conjecture as to how much control he actually had over the scouts when Tre had been on board for 2 months at the time.
I don't think it matters who you want to place blame on whether it be the scouts, GM, or Burke. Brian explained they were concerned over the surgeries Demko had so they went with the, in their opinion, healthier option in MacDonald.

Obviously in hindsight that was a poor decision. In the end, they all know more than we do. For every Macdonald or Hunter, there's an Andersson or Dube.
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I don't think it matters who you want to place blame on whether it be the scouts, GM, or Burke. Brian explained they were concerned over the surgeries Demko had so they went with the, in their opinion, healthier option in MacDonald.

Obviously in hindsight that was a poor decision. In the end, they all know more than we do. For every Macdonald or Hunter, there's an Andersson or Dube.
Vancouver grows goalies the same way Nashville grows defensemen.

Demko would have busted for us and Macdonald would already by now be a Vezina winner.

We chose what we had to choose.
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