UPD 3: Dan O'Toole confirms daughter found

[GreenLantern2814]

How exactly is one supposed to react if the location of one’s newborn is not something you’re certain of?

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

How exactly is one supposed to react if the location of one’s newborn is not something you’re certain of?

No kidding, I would be more concerned if someone wasn't going out of their mind.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

How exactly is one supposed to react if the location of one’s newborn is not something you’re certain of?

I think there is a good chance the mental breakdown or whatever we are going to call it is why he thought the child was missing or in danger in the first place.

Sounds like the child was with its mother where it was supposed to be the entire time. These were some pretty bizarre tweets this wasn't a case of leaving a stroller at the mall or an abduction and then panic ect.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I think there is a good chance the mental breakdown or whatever we are going to call it is why he thought the child was missing or in danger in the first place.

Sounds like the child was with its mother where it was supposed to be the entire time. These were some pretty bizarre tweets this wasn't a case of leaving a stroller at the mall or an abduction and then panic ect.

Did you miss my post about considering post partum? It is common and it is ugly

Don’t talk about Dan having a mental breakdown without knowing the facts

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Did you miss my post about considering post partum? It is common and it is ugly

Don’t talk about Dan having a mental breakdown without knowing the facts

Uh, you are also jumping to conclusions without facts...Dan had some kinda mental breakdown looking at his tweets. How, when, why, is certainly in question.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Uh, you are also jumping to conclusions without facts...Dan had some kinda mental breakdown looking at his tweets. How, when, why, is certainly in question.

You are a doctor based on tweets?

I’m not concluding anything. Just giving examples of options and asking people to not go further down other paths

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Uh, you are also jumping to conclusions without facts...Dan had some kinda mental breakdown looking at his tweets. How, when, why, is certainly in question.

You can’t diagnose a mental breakdown from three tweets.

Instead of speculating like this is entertainment or mystery to solve, we could just leave a personal situation to work itself out. Regardless of what it could or couldn’t have been, he’s a human being, so let’s treat him as such.

I’m glad his daughter was found and hope Dan is ok.

[Finger Cookin]

Have we come to a consensus on his medical diagnosis as a community, and now that we have have we alerted the Toronto police department and health officials?

Weird "story" all around, but glad we've solved it.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Just thought I would add that with both our children my wife had serious post-partum depression and combined with a lack of sleep led to what I would call a debilitating panic attack on more than one occasion where she just had to take off unannounced. The symptoms lasted until 3-4 months after the birth.

I was also struggling for the first 3 months after the birth with a lack of sleep and high levels of stress. I would also say that I had a very hard time thinking clearly and keeping my emotions in check. Both my wife and I are mentally stable people the rest of our entire lives, so these kinds of things can happen to even the most well put together people.

O'Toole's response is entirely rational to me, and is actually pretty well composed considering the situation. I have no idea how anyone else could find anything more sinister in those posts.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Guy allegedly has baby taken from him - “he’s having a mental breakdown due to the ~400 characters I’ve seen him type”

Woman who no one knows has the baby - “uh obviously the baby is completely safe, as the mother, in an unknown condition, who none of us know, has the baby. Safe and normal”.

[Erick Estrada]

He obviously had some sort of breakdown but I hope he's now in a good place knowing his daughter is safe. There's probably more to this story but still extremely strange to put something like this out in social media. The stresses of life compounded with the pandemic makes for very difficult times for everyone.

[Geeoff]

I'm glad everyone is safe and I'm glad I stayed out of this until it was resolved

[flamesfan55]

He's now deleted everything relating to this happening on both twitter and instagram...

[mdubz]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

Now he’s saying she’s been found. Thank god for that but I’m still worried about him.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1278910798899838976

Tweet has been deleted. What a crazy 24 hours.

[flamesfan55]

Originally Posted by mdubz

Tweet has been deleted. What a crazy 24 hours.

I am glad baby is safe. Obviously not my businesses but I really hope Dan is ok??

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by flamesfan55

I am glad baby is safe. Obviously not my businesses but I really hope Dan is ok??

The good thing about him putting out those tweets is that in the case he's not okay it's been brought to light. If that's the case hopefully the people in his inner circle can steer him in the direction of getting any help he or the mother may need.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by craigwd

It's nearly 2021, let's try to remove phrases like this from our vocabular please. With some compassion the world will be a much better place.

C’mon dude. It may be 2020 but let’s be rational here. Someone losing their mind takes on a variety of meanings including being angry. I didn’t imply that he’s depressed or has a mental disorder that I was poking fun at. It may be 2020 but his behaviour in those couple tweets was alarming. No matter how much we stretch the phrase wasn’t aimed at being insensitive. He was appearing to be upset and angry over what was transpiring. The term of somebody losing their mind in this context isn’t what you’re making it out to be. Sensitivity gone overboard.

[craigwd]

It like throwing out words like "he/she/they are crazy" or "I have a bit of OCD" or "she is PMSing" etc. Things like that are insensitive in general.

Just saying it would be better if we all tried to respect others who may be having a tough time.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The good thing about him putting out those tweets is that in the case he's not okay it's been brought to light. If that's the case hopefully the people in his inner circle can steer him in the direction of getting any help he or the mother may need.

Postpartum depression/psychosis can cause these types of total mental breakdowns. They are very serious because of the potential risk of harm to the child and may require immediate medical intervention and separation of child and parent. This without previous history of depression and other concerns. The good thing is that it's generally temporary and not long lasting.

I believe that's what Deluxe Mustache and Cali were alluding to. The potential for something like this is always there for new/recent parents. This is perhaps in my mind a lot more being a recent parent and getting ready for a second. If my wife started acting bizarrely and disappeared for a long period of time with a newborn without communicating with me, I'd freak the hell out too.

Hopefully I am not putting words in their mouths, but I felt like they weren't trying to shoot down the mental health comments of others. They were trying to offer a suggestion of a potential alternative that is in the same line of thinking as those posters, but far more reigned in than a full blown mental breakdown suggestion that some were making. They were suggesting that what seems illogical to some of you might have a fully logical explanation that encompasses all the information at this time. I felt like they were making parallels, but stopped short of saying this is the exact case for this scenario.

There's a difference between garden variety post baby blues and postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. In a postpartum depression/psychosis scenario, the parent can suddenly start behaving erratically with no prior history and harm/kill the baby and themselves.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20376617

[OldDutch]

Last post on this. The assumption Dan is experiencing a mental episode is possible, but no more likely than the mother. Keep in mind that for whatever reason none of us are privy to Dan felt this need to act.

It can be real or imagined or misinterpreted. He was reacting to a perceived threat. Just because the child is safe with the Mother shouldn't mean we should automatically react that Dan was completely wrong here or "lost it" somehow.

As I said before, it appears the Mother and him are not aligning for some time. He references not holding the baby for a long time or ever. This could be a slow burn between them, with something happening that made him feel the need to react the way he did.

Again all of us go through periods like this. What is important is we step back and listen and support. That includes not name calling or shaming a person going through a mental episode or not. That causes people to hide feelings, and in some cases violently erupt. I have seen it first hand.

Lets all hope Dan takes time to work this one out, and get back on air (if he wants) as soon as ready. Wish him the best.