Notable Whipping Boys That Donned The Flames Sweater - Past and Present

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by drewtastic

Does Kravchuck count here? I always thought he took an inordinate amount of criticism...from the guy sitting in from of me in my section at the Dome, at least...

There was "Bad Kravchuck" AKA "Igor" and then there was "Good Kravchuck" AKA "Gary."

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by tknez16

Andrei Zyuzin. Awful player.

Lazy Zyuzin

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Buff

Didn't we trade Jeff Reese for him?

I stand corrected.

It was Mike Sullivan that we claimed off waivers from SJ. Remember Tom Bricker of 660 saying Flames acquire speedy shark when it happened.

Whalen said Keczmer’s name different every tome. Was a hoot to listen too.

[Rick M.]

The unmotivated Kent Nilsson.

[hjerk]

Originally Posted by browna

Rob Neidermeyer.

Definition of whipping boy differs personally for me. For me, it's players that should be better that what they are, more underachivers, given previously stats, proven skills, and no longer worth what their contract is valued at. Or, over valued by fans.

This is really the critical element when it comes to Niedermeyer. All the talent was there, but for whatever reason it didn't show through in his play. I don't know how many times I shouted from the stands as he turned away from the puck or made a soft play. At one point I started referring to him as, "The Man who would do Nothing"

It's one thing if a grinder like David Moss walks in and sucks. It's another thing entirely when someone who has all the tools walks in and sucks anyway.

[blender]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Finally, someone who knows what this means. It’s not who you hated. It’s who took more than his fair share of criticism (not meaning that they were necessarily undeserving of ANY, just not the amount).

Like (IMO) Stajan, Turek, Wideman, sometimes even Brouwer.

LOL, it's the internet. Most of us don't know what we are talking about at any given time.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Gary Roberts would often take dumb penalties.

I can never ever recall a Flames fan saying "Fn Gary Roberts is useless, I wish we would get rid of this guy! "

Never.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Finally, someone who knows what this means. It’s not who you hated. It’s who took more than his fair share of criticism (not meaning that they were necessarily undeserving of ANY, just not the amount).

Like (IMO) Stajan, Turek, Wideman, sometimes even Brouwer.

I like this definition.

In that respect, the most glaring recent examples are probably Bouwmeester, Butler, and Brouwer.

Bouwmeester was perfectly fine here, only asked to play a different role/style than he did in Florida. We didn't get what we were expecting, but he was a good defenseman. Good enough to make the Olympic roster of a country that won gold.

Butler was played over his position. I always felt he was servicable in a 6, maybe 5 role, but being played top 4 was ludicrous.

Same goes with Brouwer. Gully's Brouwerplay is not his fault. Being paid $1.5 million per year more than he was worth at the time was not ALL his fault. Take him off the powerplay, put him as a permanent bottom six, and wait for playoff Brouwer to show up when you need him.

[FanIn80]

Ah yes, the "Rob Niedermayer Hat-trick"

- Giveaway leading directly to a goal
- Stupid penalty out of nowhere that results in a PPG against
- Receiving end of a momentum-changing big hit

[browna]

Back in the day at CP: Special Nieds was Rob
When pursuing Scott as a UFA that one summer of 2005 ,he was coined Nieds Special.

Yes, Bouwmeester is another one that fans expected more of, given the hype and the contract he had. Again, a bit of victim of circumstance ; the Flames swung back and forth in those post 2004 seasons, from going to not scoring enough goals or having offensive difference makers, and attempting to fix that one offseason, to having porous defense the next year, and fixing that (with Bouwmeester). So he was brought in 10 years ago to shore up the defensive end, but expected by fans to light up the scoreboard given the free reign he had in Fla.

[troutman]

Kent Nilsson.

[Owen15]

I would add Paul Byron. If he converted half his breakaways he would have had 20 goals here.

[Owen15]

Originally Posted by Owen15

I would add Paul Byron. If he converted half his breakaways he would have had 20 goals here.

I would also add next year’s ufa signing. And the one the year after that. And the year after that and the year after that.

Our shiny new toys generally suck the day we sign them.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by Wood

Brouwer - Jokinen - Neal
Kotalik- Neidermayer - Bourque
Hagman - Stajan - Mayers
Friesen - Raymond - Setoguchi
Comeau

Wideman - Bouwmeester
O'Brien - Hulse
Butler - Eriksson
Hale - Zyuzin

Hiller
Elliott

Add in Leeman and McElhinney
Coaches: Glutuzan, Brent Sutter, and Playfair

Who would've thought the Flames had a full+ team of misfits!

[Dajazz]

Sean Monahan.

[chubeyr1]

I cannot believe no one has said Brandon Bollig!

We traded a third round pick for this plug. Could not skate, could not play hockey! Yet he was tough? When was he tough? A teammate would get run and he would skate away!

You don’t need to be a goon and do the staged fighting thing. Yet you are expected to stand up for your teammates. I mean Backlund is more physically engaging than Bollig ever was. Christ even Gaudreau will send a nice slash back to an opposing player.

Bollig was terrible.

Bollig makes Monahan look like an enforcer on the ice!

[FanIn80]

What about Tony “the mailman” Amonte?

Get it? The mailman? Cause of all the posts...?

[skudr248]

Chris Butler, seriously #### that guy

[cannon7]

Milan Lucic.

Too soon?

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by skudr248

Chris Butler, seriously #### that guy

2019 Stanley Cup Champion - Chris Butler?