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Old 09-26-2016, 05:57 PM   #61
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I still stand by my statement that the minute that you are convicted of a violent gun related offense where the fire arm is discharged its automatic life at hard labor no parole.

I care less and less about reform when it comes to thugs with guns shooting people.
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In every literal sense of the word he's a teenager.
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Old 09-26-2016, 06:31 PM   #63
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In every literal sense of the word he's a teenager.


Now look up the legal definition, the one that matters in this instance and he is "in every sense" an adult.
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Now look up the legal definition, the one that matters in this instance and he is "in every sense" an adult.
Which wasn't the OP. CBC reporting that a teenager was the shooter is completely factual. Him being tried as an adult or not is another thing all together but CBC is not incorrect.
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I still stand by my statement that the minute that you are convicted of a violent gun related offense where the fire arm is discharged its automatic life at hard labor no parole.

I care less and less about reform when it comes to thugs with guns shooting people.
Careful, you'll get the rehab & rehabilitate crowd all riled up...
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In every literal sense of the word he's a teenager.
The complaint is that using the word teenager in this context diminishes the personal responsibility of the shooter.

In the same way the word criminal kills stampeder creates a prejudice against the shooter.

Young Man would have been less prejudicial
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Which wasn't the OP. CBC reporting that a teenager was the shooter is completely factual. Him being tried as an adult or not is another thing all together but CBC is not incorrect.
CBC is pulling their usual socialist approach. This isn't some misguided kid like they look to be wanting to portray, he's a criminal and a well documented low life known to the police for Many years. There's no need to have the word Teen anywhere near the title of that article.

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The complaint is that using the word teenager in this context diminishes the personal responsibility of the shooter.

In the same way the word criminal kills stampeder creates a prejudice against the shooter.

Young Man would have been less prejudicial
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There's no need to have the word Teen anywhere near the title of that article.
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CBC is pulling their usual socialist approach. This isn't some misguided kid like they look to be wanting to portray, he's a criminal and a well documented low life known to the police for Many years. There's no need to have the word Teen anywhere near the title of that article.
Maybe you're just reading into it a little too much. Nothing they wrote led me to believe they were trying to portray him as a misguided kid.
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Maybe you're just reading into it a little too much. Nothing they wrote led me to believe they were trying to portray him as a misguided kid.
Every single article they post status with "Teen". Why do you think that is? Not man, not criminal, no Alberta man, not suspect , just teen. Ridiculous. This guy isn't subject to the young offenders act, there's no need for this.

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I still stand by my statement that the minute that you are convicted of a violent gun related offense where the fire arm is discharged its automatic life at hard labor no parole.

I care less and less about reform when it comes to thugs with guns shooting people.


"Each prisoner in Canada’s 54 federal penitentiaries costs taxpayers $117,788, up 46% from a decade ago, says a new report."

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/03/1...-each-per-year

Anyway RIP Mylan Hicks
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Every single article they post status with "Teen". Why do you think that is? Not man, not criminal, no Alberta man, not suspect , just teen. Ridiculous. This guy isn't subject to the young offenders act, there's no need for this.
Because by definition he's not a man? He's under the age of adulthood. He's not a suspect, he's been charged.

I get it this sucks and he should be prosecuted to the full extent.

I'm no fan of the CBC but calling him a teen is completely acceptable and I don't think pandering at this juncture.
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"Each prisoner in Canada’s 54 federal penitentiaries costs taxpayers $117,788, up 46% from a decade ago, says a new report."

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/03/1...-each-per-year

Anyway RIP Mylan Hicks
OMG I didn't know that at all. We should totally let everyone go, the murderer's the pedo's the people that grift our parents and loved ones.

Its just costing us too much money.

Sometimes my friend its not about the money.

Besides, if we put them to work we could off set some of the costs. Get them to crush gravel 8 hours a day for asphalt manufacturers. Or put them to work on northern road crews, or cleaning camp toilets 10 hours a day.

The person that did this killing is a worthless human being with what sounds like a long rap sheet, so no I don't care about the money, lock him in a deep dark hole and throw away the key and costs be damned.

There was no good reason for this murder, except that the kid was a thug with a gun looking for trouble.

Its tragic that a kid that worked so hard to get out of Detroit to move to a better life was snuffed out by a worthless piece of garbage.

I'm firm in my belief that if you pull out a gun and kill someone for no good reason, that's it for you. If you're a drug dealer defending your turf, or a gangster defending your honor or establishing how tough you are, or your angry because people are mean to you and you go out and shoot someone or you catch your wife in bed with someone else and shoot them, you don't deserve anything but a cold wet cell with 4 walls closing in on you, some back breaking labor to fill your days and hopefully a long life to contemplate that you are a dirt bag.

The only concession is that I believe in choices, leave a nice noose in your cell for you in case you want to escape your punishment.
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Did you suddenly have a change of heart for sentences for violent crimes captaincrunch?

I recall you saying 6 months was good enough for Brock turner and his rape conviction. Not trying to start an argument but I find it puzzling you want the key thrown away in this case and a noose in case he wants to commit suicide. And you said something about how he would never be able to get a job and that's punishment enough...so are you only against gun crimes?
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OMG I didn't know that at all. We should totally let everyone go, the murderer's the pedo's the people that grift our parents and loved ones.

Its just costing us too much money.

Sometimes my friend its not about the money.
I'd rather bring back capital punishment and the gallows. To save money we can reuse the rope.
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Because by definition he's not a man? He's under the age of adulthood. He's not a suspect, he's been charged.
He's 19. By every definition in Canada, that's an adult.

The Herald, Sun, CTV, and Global all refer to him as a man. Only the CBC refers to him as a teen.

While technically correct, the word teen evokes a certain mental image that is very different from what the word man evokes.
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He's 19. By every definition in Canada, that's an adult.

The Herald, Sun, CTV, and Global all refer to him as a man. Only the CBC refers to him as a teen.

While technically correct, the word teen evokes a certain mental image that is very different from what the word man evokes.
In the video on ctv I just watched the lady called him a teenager and then later said "young man".

I agree he's a man and an adult and shouldn't be called a teen.

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/mobile/video?clipId=959842
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I agree he's a man and an adult and shouldn't be called a teen
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