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View Poll Results: Pick your tandem
Hiller - Ramo 22 5.93%
Hiller - Ortio 97 26.15%
Ramo - Ortio 252 67.92%
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Old 09-29-2015, 05:30 PM   #61
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According to the poll looks like Ortio is the clear #2 favorite
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Old 09-29-2015, 05:32 PM   #62
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I don't know how to view polls on Tapa-talk so I haven't voted yet but I would pick Ortio and Ramo.

I think if they can split the duty this year we will be in a similar position as last year, ie in the playoffs.

Ramo played well in the playoffs and I always felt more comfortable with him.

I would be sad to see Hiller's awesome retro mask go to waste though! He should auction it on CP for charity if he gets traded.
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Old 09-29-2015, 05:56 PM   #63
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I`m all for Ramo and Ortio. Does Hiller have any trade value at all being a UFA at the end of this season?
Probably makes him easier to trade imo.
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Old 09-29-2015, 06:05 PM   #64
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Ramo scares me more than Hiller so I'd go with Hiller/Ortio
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Old 09-29-2015, 06:13 PM   #65
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I went Ramo/Ortio because I think Ramo has a little untapped potential compared to Hiller.

Either of the 2 vets with Ortio is fine though. Both guys are reliable goalies and both guys have their faults.

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Old 09-29-2015, 06:44 PM   #66
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Wow, this poll is a little surprising to me.

Guess people simply want a changeup from last year. Seems reasonable
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Old 09-29-2015, 06:51 PM   #67
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Wow, this poll is a little surprising to me.

Guess people simply want a changeup from last year. Seems reasonable
I just don't think people want to lose a young goalie like Ortio. Nothing against Ramo or Hiller.
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Old 09-29-2015, 07:52 PM   #68
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I predict Hiller and Ramo to start the year with Ortio being risked on waivers. Hope I'm wrong. I just think if there was a market for either veteran, Hiller would already be gone and Ramo would have signed elsewhere.
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Old 09-29-2015, 08:55 PM   #69
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Obviously Ortio cannot be waived

I picked Hiller I don't think there is enough between him and Ramo to commit one way or the other. But I think Hillers career path lends itself better to a 1A vet 1B rookie model that the Flames will probably move towards.
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Old 09-29-2015, 09:54 PM   #70
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Went Ramo - Ortio. I have nothing against Hiller, but I don't think he is strictly better than Ramo. Ramo is younger, cheaper, and more Finnish.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:52 PM   #71
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I thought Ramo was super impressive against the Ducks. Didn't realize that Hiller had better numbers vs the Canucks and Ramo only maintained a .907 SV% in his series. Then again, the Ducks were a much tougher opponent.

I guess on the whole Hiller was slightly better last season. I still get irritated at his early game stinkers, and susceptibility to the odd sharp angle shot due to not staying glued to the posts, though.
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:09 PM   #72
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I voted Ramo and Hiller but forgot that would put Ortio on waivers and potentially lose him. I thought Ramo and Hiller were a pretty strong tandem last year and have looked very good in preseason.
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:17 PM   #73
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I want all three. It's not the best way to do it but it was also needed last year. Unless you can move one of the vets for a good return.
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Save percentage vs Vancouver is not comparable to save percentage against Anaheim.

Comparing save percentages over the course of a season, particularly behind the same defense against a variety of teams is more sensible.

On the poll, Hiller's style seems more vulnerable in a playoff series (ie. Same opponent with time to adapt to his style). I think this team has roughly equal chance to make the playoffs with any of the three goalies.

Ramo-Ortio for me. But I like Hiller and hope he finds a good home
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:26 PM   #75
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Hiller is a guy you know can give you 60+ starts with a .910 save %. Whatever we think of Ramo, we don't 'know' he's capable of that kind of consistency.

Based on the poll, people are comfortable with Kari Ramo as the most experienced goaltender in the entire organization. I don't know that the Flames share that mindset. It seems very risky to me.
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The real question is - are they going to try to retain the guy they hold on to after this year? Obviously performance this season will influence that but if the plan moving forward is Ortio/Gillies then i beleive it doesnt matter who out of Hiller/Ramo they go with this year and who ever has any form of market value, try to get a pick out of them, even if you have to retain a large chunk of salary for this year.

Either Goalie with Ortio

The Ortio/Gillies tandem next year would also free up some cap for the signings required in the off season.
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:23 AM   #77
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I wonder if they'll keep all 3 goaltenders for the first 5-10 games and then make a decision.
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I wonder if they'll keep all 3 goaltenders for the first 5-10 games and then make a decision.
That would just make another equally as difficult decision for the group of forwards.
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Old 09-30-2015, 03:55 AM   #79
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Ortio and whoever. Most importantly - whoever it is, stay in your ####ing net!
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Do you stop rebuilding if you make the playoffs in back to back years?
You never stop rebuilding. Just like you never stop trying to win. I don't think it needs to be one or the other unless you are making a deal as a contender trying to put your team over the top.
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