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Old 02-21-2013, 10:09 PM   #61
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Couldn't happen to a bigger d******.
Why am I not surprised to hear a comment like this from you. We can only hope that your own precious d***bag receives some nice disciplinary action.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:09 PM   #62
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He didn't go low, he leaned in with his shoulder and because of the angle Clutterbuck came around at they impacted at the waist.
He extended his leg.
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No that was super dirty, take of the blue jersey and fix the tv settings Red Deer
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He didn't go low, he leaned in with his shoulder and because of the angle Clutterbuck came around at they impacted at the waist.
Didn't go low, yet his hip hit just above the knee on the thigh. Hall is the shortest player in the NHL.
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That should be a five game suspension
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:11 PM   #66
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I don't think there was intent there by Hall to knee him. Again, unnecessary, certainly a penalty, but I don't think it's worthy of a suspension.

It probably will though, based on the injury alone.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:12 PM   #67
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Why am I not surprised to hear a comment like this from you. We can only hope that your own precious d***bag receives some nice disciplinary action.
It's Clutterbuck. I'm sure a few Flames have been on the receiving end of his borderline hits. Not sure why anyone would have any sympathy for him.
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He extended his leg.
I didn't see that at all. Looked like a consequence of happenstance to me.

Even so, I can see a suspension because of the onus placed on the hitter and the apparent injury that resulted.

Personally, I don't label that as a "dirty" hit...more a hit that went bad.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:14 PM   #70
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It's Clutterbuck. I'm sure a few Flames have been on the receiving end of his borderline hits. Not sure why anyone would have any sympathy for him.
I'm sure a few might, just like a few nutjobs from every fanbase wish ill intent on players. I however happen to like Clutterbuck, even if I didn't a comment like that isn't really warranted. It's not like were talking about Cooke or Burrows here!
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Didn't go low, yet his hip hit just above the knee on the thigh. Hall is the shortest player in the NHL.
Measure your own distance from your hip to your mid-thigh. Mine's maybe 6-7 inches. That's not much of a drop, especially when you consider that Hall and Clutterbuck are only 2 inches apart in height.

Just seeing the replay again, and he drops into a hitting stance in the same manner as every other open-ice hit.
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I didn't see that at all. Looked like a consequence of happenstance to me.

Even so, I can see a suspension because of the onus placed on the hitter and the apparent injury that resulted.

Personally, I don't label that as a "dirty" hit...more a hit that went bad.
I would agree without question if it wasn't for the fact that Hall really had a lot of time to adjust his position or alter his course when he noticed Clutterbuck in a vulnerable position based on his own position. It wasn't one of those instant, fluke plays, Hall had a lot of time to line up the hit.
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Oilers panel 'he was bracing for a big hit', umm no he clipped an unsuspecting player. Feel for the wild
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That angle didn't look like he stuck his knee out... Looks like he missed a check
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I would agree without question if it wasn't for the fact that Hall really had a lot of time to adjust his position or alter his course when he noticed Clutterbuck in a vulnerable position based on his own position. It wasn't one of those instant, fluke plays, Hall had a lot of time to line up the hit.
I would disrespect Hall more if he actually let Clutterbuck off the hook for not being aware...especially when you consider how much of a physical player Clutterbuck is.

Hall wanted to make him pay with a shoulder hit. I don't think he could have foreseen it unfolding like it did, and thus no responsibility should be placed on him for altering course.
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Measure your own distance from your hip to your mid-thigh. Mine's maybe 6-7 inches. That's not much of a drop, especially when you consider that Hall and Clutterbuck are only 2 inches apart in height.

Just seeing the replay again, and he drops into a hitting stance in the same manner as every other open-ice hit.
This is the point of contact. This is a hit where a player goes low.

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His knee angled out as soon as clutterbuck missed the puck. Not international, but definitely avoidable
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That angle didn't look like he stuck his knee out... Looks like he missed a check
Even if this were true, it changes nothing as far as him being on the hook for any discipline. The player throwing the check is generally responsible to make sure the check is clean, this includes not "missing" a check and clipping someone in a vulnerable position.

To be clear, I don't think Hall went out with a blatant knee on knee, but he put himself in the position that it was the only way that hit could have unfolded so in the end it really doesn't matter what his intent was, dirty hit or not it was a bad hit.

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That angle didn't look like he stuck his knee out... Looks like he missed a check
It wasn't a true knee on knee, this much is true.
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Looks more like a bad hit than dirty but still reckless and might deserve a suspension (short one at most) based on the reckless nature of the play.
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