WEEK 19 : STAMPEDERS at Eskimos

[zamler]

Why did Reed call a time out? There was no reason for it, unless he was trying to lose. Confusing.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Originally Posted by zamler

Why did Reed call a time out? There was no reason for it, unless he was trying to lose. Confusing.

To add, hasn't it been statistically proven that icing a kicker does not work?

[corporatejay]

Doesn't matter. Rouge FTW. 28-27.

[zamler]

He had to be throwing the game, or something. Vanilla Ice sure had his Lionel Hutz moment by performing at half time.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Originally Posted by zamler

He had to be throwing the game, or something. Vanilla Ice sure had his Lionel Hutz moment by performing at half time.

Well I admit that I'd love to see a West vs West final at the 100th Grey Cup in the east. The year some of the 'experts' picked an eastern crossver

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077

Well I admit that I'd love to see a West vs West final at the 100th Grey Cup in the east. The year some of the 'experts' picked an eastern crossver

Anyone but the Als.

[jammies]

Sherrit has to be the most over-rated player in the league, at least by TSN. At least half his tackles are dragging the guy down from behind after he's already made yards - I'd be a lot more impressed if he had 40 tackles all year because the opposing offence tried to stay away from him. I'd like to see what he'd do in a defence that didn't suck and allow him the time to run across the field to make a play because the rest of the sad-sack Eskimo defence strings it out.

[browna]

Back to Sherritt.

The Esks going into this week were last in the league in net defence, giving up the most yards rushing in a game, most yards rushing per carry, most yards passing against per game, most average yards offense against, and given up the most pass completions against....all stats that I had to look up...Canada's Sports Leader far too busy throwing gratuitous, borderline sickening praise to one of the guys on the field who is part of that horrid defense, the guy plays in a position that is first line of defense on that pathetic league worst run defense, to give out some of that context and facts.

So holding all those prestigious records for defensive ineptitude (from a coach who is supposed to be a defensive guru, or so Rider fans would've told you a couple years ago), a whole lot of shine is off that "record".

Wouldn't be surprised if Shaw and Reed want to throw that game at the end. Nichols long bomb passing won't work twice against Calgary, and Joseph would be even worse in the cold if he plays.

Instead, they get to play in a Dome next week against a beatable TO team.

[killer_carlson]

I went to the game on some last second tickets. Good seats and free. Really, really cold there tonight. Much colder in the stadium than it should have been.

Vanilla ice was actually really fun. Virtually everyone left their seats at half time to get out of the cold, but vanilla ice had fun with it I think. Good times.

Loved the kicks by both teams at the end. Eskimo fans in the stadium started asking if shaw was born at the foothills or something like that. It was awesome. The only way it could have ended better would have been if we had punted for a single on that last second mulligan.

Finally, Bo Levi Mitchell has the strongest arm by far of any qb who threw a pass for either team tonight. Really like him.

[OzSome]

I was hoping for Hughes to get a couple of sacks to take over for the lead in the CFL. Yes, i agree with people around here that JC Sherritt is the most overrated player in the CFL. He plays for the worst offense and defense in the league. Their offense was so pathetic that they only spent 1/4 of the time on the field meaning Sherritt and the boys spent 3/4 on field. Also, I do not like the stats on the tackling especially the tackles was after the other player ran for over 20 yards already. The guy couldn't catch Jon Cornish most of the time and I cannot count how many times Cornish embarrassed Sherritt this season.

I think the reason for the Eskimos to be on that game was the Stamps undisciplined plays. Eskimos first TD by Fred Stamps was aided by the penalties, first by 15 yards on Malik Jackson's horse collar penalty, then more penalties when Eskimos could have been 3rd down but Hughes had a face mask penalty and so on..

Bring on the Riders!! Please NO ACTING allowed...yes I am talking about you Mr. Dressler.

[dash_pinched]

Way to throw cold water on a tremendous accomplishment, Wally...

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/R...353/story.html

[psyang]

Originally Posted by dash_pinched

Way to throw cold water on a tremendous accomplishment, Wally...

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/R...353/story.html

You can see the bias in the article when it states that it took Cornish 18 games to break the record, but it only took Kwong "just over 15 games". I think that normally means 16 games.

[Fluffy Bunnies]

Originally Posted by dash_pinched

Way to throw cold water on a tremendous accomplishment, Wally...

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/R...353/story.html

Yeah thats Wally and his sour grapes. He is a close friend of Kwong and he is still bitter to the Stamps for the way he was let go. Not surprising. Kind of classless if you ask me. Reading through it just sounds like he is manufacturing reasons for saying this.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

I don't really think that's fair by Buono to say that about Cornish's record. Leagues change, different eras. Cornish was presented with 18 games to do it and he did it, record is his. End of story. It's not like the record was falling every year because a Canadian back had the extra two games.

I do think Cornish is good enough to get that record in 16 games (I believe he said something to that effect in an interview after the game). Just needs to work on his consistency a bit and he'll be a dominant back (he already is but he could be so much better).

[browna]

Don't know where I saw the stat, but I thought the number of carries between Cornish and Kwong were not that far off, so regardless of games.

Most performance based stats in any sport can be have stars beside them. Gretzky getting 92 goals, or even Lanny getting 66 can have stars beside them when just watching a few minutes of highlights from that era shows how much time and space players had to make plays, against guys playing defense who were the second-most out of shape players on the team, and a goalie who was most of the time the worst athlete on the team, and style consisted of kick saves and hoping his large size would stop pucks.

Doesn't really matter...the fact that Cornish is the leading rusher in the league and is Canadian is fairly rare too.

[transplant99]

"Just to make it clear, Normie didn't do it in 18 games," Buono said, assuming the logic of former baseball commissioner Ford (pro-asterisk) Frick. "I'm not downplaying what Jon is doing, but there should be an asterisk beside it (the record). Normie did it a long time ago, in an era when it was a lot different than it is today. Remember, teams were built around stopping the run in those days. Everybody ran the football. Today, it's the other extreme. Everybody lines up to stop the pass. Running backs should dominate (in 2012) because defences are more set up to stop the pass. I'm not being derogatory, but I'm saying it was probably harder to get rushing yards in the 1950s because teams knew you were going to run the ball."

This is where his explanation/argument loses validity IMO. Sure defenses were geared towards stopping the run, but offenses were also geared TOWARDS running the ball. So its a wash when it comes to his reasoning.

Its a great accomplishment from a player who has likely been the best in the league this season as far as individual performances over the course of 18 games.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077

I don't really think that's fair by Buono to say that about Cornish's record. Leagues change, different eras. Cornish was presented with 18 games to do it and he did it, record is his. End of story. It's not like the record was falling every year because a Canadian back had the extra two games.

I do think Cornish is good enough to get that record in 16 games (I believe he said something to that effect in an interview after the game). Just needs to work on his consistency a bit and he'll be a dominant back (he already is but he could be so much better).

Yeah, here's the thing: a lot of CFL single-season records that are held today owe themselves to the 18 game season: Mike Pringle's rushing touchdown record, Pitts' receiving yards records, Ham's QB rushing yards record... subtract two games from any of those guys' seasons, and they wouldn't have the record. Same is probably true for a lot of career milestones. Would Terry Vaughn have 11 1000 yard seasons if he had two less games every season? How about Stegall's touchdown record? The 18 game era gave his career 34 extra games, and without those, he may not have broken Reed's mark. Pringle certainly wouldn't have broken Reed's rushing yards mark without those extra games. The 18-game era has completely rewritten the single season recordbooks, and the fact that this record endured 24 years of the 18 game era without being broken is a testament to just how remarkable the record is.

Heck, tackling stats have only been kept in the CFL since 1987. Which means Sherritt's record is something that applies only to the 18-game era of the CFL, too. But nobody's trying to put an asterisk beside Sherritt's record, because he's not breaking the record of a beloved CFL legend. It wouldn't shock me if some of the great players of the 16 game era - Danny Kepley, perhaps - had more tackles in a 16 game season than Sherritt's record.