[PGT] Flames 6, Bolts 3: The Never Ending PGT

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Bingo

So a first round pick is going to ...

a) risk injury
b) start his entry level deal two years later literally leaving millions on the table

to avoid playing for a coach that can be mean in press conferences?

Maybe we don't want him then!

Yeah we couldn't possibly want anyone like that on our team. Not someone who would be foolish enough to play for years for Harvard while earning a degree from the most prestigious school in the world.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern

As long as Huberdeau is playing regular minutes with Lucic, I am not sure that we can attribute his relatively low production to any other reason.

Lucic is playing valiantly, but seriously. He's Lucic in 2023.

Except he was much worse, production wise, before being paired with Lucic. I’m not calling Lucic a catalyst, he isn’t.

But the need to blame Lucic and Sutter for Huberdeau’s lack of production makes no sense to me.

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I’m starting to line for the one or two posters who would blame Gaudreau after every loss, pointing out how badly he was outplayed by the other side’s best players. 10 seems to have been spared that treatment for now.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Laraque weighs in? Please tell me you chuckled as you typed that.

I'm still waiting on Daniel Carcillo to weigh in, he has been silent for too long about what is wrong with hockey.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1617213060720250881

Would love to see Ruzicka get a chance of that 2nd line in Lucic’s place

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Yeah we couldn't possibly want anyone like that on our team. Not someone who would be foolish enough to play for years for Harvard while earning a degree from the most prestigious school in the world.

Not what I said.

Man this place ...

[tony-soprano]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Yeah we couldn't possibly want anyone like that on our team. Not someone who would be foolish enough to play for years for Harvard while earning a degree from the most prestigious school in the world.

He isn’t signing here anyway.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Bingo

So a first round pick is going to ...

a) risk injury
b) start his entry level deal two years later literally leaving millions on the table

to avoid playing for a coach that can be mean in press conferences?

Maybe we don't want him then!

Coronato could make the decision to finish his education at the most prestigious University in North America and get his pick of 32 teams to sign with (many who will put him right into the lineup) or he could sign here where it appears the coach wants players to spend years in the minors before they get a shot. Play in the AHL for the next 2 years or play in the NCAA?

He can also easily force his way out like Fox did if he wants to sign sooner but not here.

I am not saying he will do any of this but when attending Harvard the player has more leverage as staying and completing that degree is not a terrible consolation to pick any team you want to sign with when it is over

[Reggie Dunlop]

They should have Conroy take the news conferences.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Yeah we couldn't possibly want anyone like that on our team. Not someone who would be foolish enough to play for years for Harvard while earning a degree from the most prestigious school in the world.

Eh. I’m skeptical on if Coronato will sign, but we can’t call him Fox just yet until we know for certain he won’t sign

[TheScorpion]

Just want to make it very clear that while I did very much say this site skews older, which I do think it does, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that — it just offers some different perspectives than other places. I was just trying to compare and contrast the demographics (and the corresponding opinions) between this place and other places, not say which is better.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Wow that was an ugly read.

I'm not going to defend Sutter's comments even if I don't agree with the extreme reaction to what he said. He made the story about his comments which is a shame because I was waking up this morning really looking forward to a PGT after a pretty huge win.

Instead I learned that I work in an industry of hazing and masogynists, that my website is dated and full of boomers, and that I'm not a real fan. On the other side we question those that haven't played the game, we call people snow flakes, and we suggest a person is becoming the next Eric Francis.

Not a banner day.

I may need a break from this place.

I feel EXACTLY the same way about Sutter’s quote and said it earlier.

But if it’s any consolation Bingo, the stupidest comments are pretty much the same 3 or 4 posters who keep repeating the same thing over and over again. It’s an indictment of your own words if you can’t express your POV and let it stand on its own. And instead resort to bombarding anyone forced to listen to endless repetition.

[ben voyonsdonc]

I’d argue that Huberdeau has started figuring out his game with the Flames and Lucic was the beneficiary rather than the other way around. I think that if we had a more scoring oriented player paired with Kadri and Huberdeau, that they’d be even better.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Wow that was an ugly read.

I'm not going to defend Sutter's comments even if I don't agree with the extreme reaction to what he said. He made the story about his comments which is a shame because I was waking up this morning really looking forward to a PGT after a pretty huge win.

Instead I learned that I work in an industry of hazing and masogynists, that my website is dated and full of boomers, and that I'm not a real fan. On the other side we question those that haven't played the game, we call people snow flakes, and we suggest a person is becoming the next Eric Francis.

Not a banner day.

I may need a break from this place.

I just gave ya a bit of a tease on another post before seeing this one. Sorry if that contributes to I'll feelings.
This place is a great microcosm of the outside world. Things are getting more polarized and people becoming less reserved while "disagreeing" every day. I find myself reading 1 in 4 comments at most in these pgts, and in general life have just had to take less offense to pretty much everything lately.
Anyways, yesterday not a great day in this thread... but it's just hockey. It's just a forum. Who honestly gives a #### what supermatt (or anyone else anonymously here) thinks at end of day about an industry or a job. It does suck that some people here are known people and thus their reputations are more attached than others. But that's outside of your control.
For guys like scorp, he'll have to have thick skin for life to follow his career path so I'm sure he can handle some dirty jabs.

I liked that other fellows thread about separating the emotion from team following in sports the other day.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Coronato could make the decision to finish his education at the most prestigious University in North America and get his pick of 32 teams to sign with (many who will put him right into the lineup) or he could sign here where it appears the coach wants players to spend years in the minors before they get a shot. Play in the AHL for the next 2 years or play in the NCAA?

He can also easily force his way out like Fox did if he wants to sign sooner but not here.

I am not saying he will do any of this but when attending Harvard the player has more leverage as staying and completing that degree is not a terrible consolation to pick any team you want to sign with when it is over

If he puts getting a degree as a priority over money then absolutely.

If he has his hockey career as his first priority but stays in school and delays his money years by two seasons to avoid a big meany coach though?

Can't see it.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Sutter’s press conferences are utter waste of time for everyone including Sutter himself. I’d rather see Maclean or Muller go out there and bring some actual analysis of the game.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by tony-soprano

He isn’t signing here anyway.

Hey I agree, I propose trading him pretty much every week. I just don't think we should be making the argument a prospect wouldn't strongly consider playing four years of Hockey at Harvard.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

They should have Conroy take the news conferences.

Last night’s press conference would just be wrapping up and only one question would be taken.

[Bingo]

Man it would be interesting if we could get all the real fans, you know the young ones ... to flip and spend all day on social media hammering the youth and criticizing Sutter for not playing the veterans enough to see if Sutter would reverse his spite and do the opposite again!

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Sutter’s mockery of Pelletier’s debut wasn’t just bad leadership – it lacked human decency

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/sutters...human-decency/

I wonder if Sutter will be charged with crimes against humanity.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Man it would be interesting if we could get all the real fans, you know the young ones ... to flip and spend all day on social media hammering the youth and criticizing Sutter for not playing the veterans enough to see if Sutter would reverse his spite and do the opposite again!

Yeah I don't get this old vs young fan thing one bit. Reddit skews very young and people there are even less upset about it than they are here