Yappy Dogs

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Don't make me laugh, you confirm my points by basically admitting Murphy barked at everyone who went by. Just because you can downplay the annoyance doesn't mean your neighbours do. Why does debarking my dog make me a lazy pet owner? Sorry I don't want to annoy my neighbours with constant yapping. It'd be nice if we could debark people who just like to hear the sound of their own voice.

Funny how in 10 years of him being there I had one complaint, from someone who was out on day trips from the psyche-ward.

I don't need to justify anything. My dog came from championship lineage, and I wasn't about to take a single piece of that away from him, including his roar!

Do whatever you want with your mutt. It's obvious you don't actually "love" him as a family member, but rather like an object to be manipulated much like a car. Problem is you probably treat cars better, which is sad.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Funny how in 10 years of him being there I had one complaint, from someone who was out on day trips from the psyche-ward.

I don't need to justify anything. My dog came from championship lineage, and I wasn't about to take a single piece of that away from him, including his roar!

Do whatever you want with your mutt. It's obvious you don't actually "love" him as a family member, but rather like an object to be manipulated much like a car. Problem is you probably treat cars better, which is sad.

Why would I respond to that garbage assumption?

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Why would I respond to that garbage assumption?

You don't. Because assumptions only hurt the assumer.

You're talking about justifying the mutilation of an animal for your own convinence and reputation.

THAT, is "garbage".

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

You don't. Because assumptions only hurt the assumer.

You're talking about justifying the mutilation of an animal for your own convinence and reputation.

THAT, is "garbage".

If you could read, you would have noticed he came like that from the breeder. You have a pretty loose definition of mutilation. Maybe tone down on the rhetoric for once you might actually get you're point across.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

If you could read, you would have noticed he came like that from the breeder.

You didn't have to purchase a dog from someone engaged in the practice of debarking.

If your dog is in fact a "rescue" then that is different.

Seeing as you actively sought a dog who was debarked, you are not off the moral hook.

Look man, you know how much I love dogs, and how much I cherished the relationship I had with mine. Much better friend to me than any human all through his lifetime, and the thought of debarking a dog to me is mutilation of something that inherently trusts and loves you.

Mutilation:

mu·ti·late Audio Help/ˈmyutlˌeɪt/Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[myoot-l-eyt]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object), -lat·ed, -lat·ing. 1.to injure, disfigure, or make imperfect by removing or irreparably damaging parts: Vandals mutilated the painting. 2.to deprive (a person or animal) of a limb or other essential part.
[Origin: 1525–35; < L mutilātus (ptp. of mutilāre to cut off, maim), equiv. to mutil(us) maimed, mutilated + -ātus -ate1]

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by FlamesKickAss

did we really need 2 posts saying pretty much the exact same thing from you?

good point ... i think a third would be more appropriate ..

cant stand em and i think people's unnatural love for their mutts is silly.

thanks, anyone care for fourths?

[BuzzardsWife]

I love dogs, it's about 90% of the owners I hate. My ex-neighbor would let her 2 dogs out at 11 p.m. and when they were done their business would bark for an hour at the door, while she sat ten feet from the door watching t.v. too lazy to get off her fat arse and let them in. I also hate people that let their dogs jump on you. Once my husband was at the beach and some big dog starting jumping on him and he was annoyed, then the owner said sarcastically, 'well good morning to you too'. Why do these morons think that we might like their dogs as much as they do? Keep your dog away from me. But the worst people are these ones. When my little girl was small she was COMPLETELY terrified of dogs. When someone would come near her with her dog she would jump on me and cry. They'd be too stupid to leave us alone, and EVERY SINGLE ONE of them said the same thing, ohhh she's a nice dog, you don't have to be afraid of her. Well it doesn't matter how big or nice your dog is, my kid hated them, get it? If someone was afraid of my dog, I would not encourage them to touch it, I would politely take the dog out of her comfort zone. My brother and his wife are the worst offenders of stupid dog owners. The dog comes before any human, they won't go out New Years Eve because the dog would be left out, they won't travel ANYWHERE, they dress the dog up for special occassions (even halloween costumes), they have a birthday party for it and let it eat its 'cake' at the table, they phone family and get pissed cuz noone sends the mutt a birthday card! and his wife hung up on me cuz i called the dog'their dog' instead of their daughter. This is all true. Noone even talks to them anymore since they got the dog. OK!! Here's the sad ending to this story. The dog died a couple weeks ago. Sad right? Well..they are sleeping with the dogs urn at night. These people are certifiable, but I bet there's a few other wackos out there as wacked out about the dog. Just thought I'd share that to entertain you.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by DementedReality

good point ... i think a third would be more appropriate ..

cant stand em and i think people's unnatural love for their mutts is silly.

thanks, anyone care for fourths?

That's ok. You made it crystal clear that you live in a demented reality. Unnatural love? Because it's an animal? You have no grasp on what love is. What is natural love? Human to human?
As far back as time goes, humans and animals have depended on each other and formed bonds. The first cavemen likely co-existed with animals in a working relationship. Fast forward to ancient times when man and camel needed each other and then to more recent times when dogs and horses were vital parts of a man's family.
You clearly have never had a pet. Pets do more for a person's mental health than anything else. Coming home after a crappy day and being greeted by your dog or cat is unmatched. They are never pissed off that you stayed out later than you said you would. They put you before themselves when danger is present. And they never second guess your loyalty to them. They may smell the scent of another animal on you, but they never accuse you of cheating.

It may sound stupid to you but I think you're just arguing to get attention.


As for your comments, stang, I agree 100%. Rottis are such a great breed. Mine is 9 now and she's showing signs of slowing down. Unfortunately for me, my ex has her up in Ft. Mac. No way in hell I'd have given her up except that I moved overseas. Whenever I get a weekend with her she's so happy to see me, I just melt.
My ex has a little nephew. He rides her like a horse. I guarantee that if you tried anything funny on him, Moxie would have something to say about it. That's why I'm against debarking.

See the attached pic: And sorry for the image size. Anyone wanna pm me and tell me how to make it smaller to avoid sideways scrollery?

edit* I'll just post a link instead.

[Traditional_Ale]

That is such a beautiful picture, 4X4. Thanks for that.

Damnit, I miss my dog too much.

[FlamesKickAss]

great post, nice looking dog 4x4.

my lab is finally starting to grasp walking at the off leash park. he is playful and in the morning and when i get home laying down he will jump up and snuggle in to me. I have tonnes of pictures. That is him in my avatar. He has been one of the best to have around the last year, because like you say no matter what mood you come home to it is tough to stay that way when you have a dog that is happy to see you.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Damnit, I miss my dog too much.

I am going to be an absolute mess when she kicks it.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by 4X4

I am going to be an absolute mess when she kicks it.

I've been a mess for about three years. Well, I was TOTALLY messed for about 1.5, and then it started getting better.

I have pictures of him on a custom made coffee mug, so in a way we're still getting up together in the morning. But some days, man...

[BuzzardsWife]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

You didn't have to purchase a dog from someone engaged in the practice of debarking.

If your dog is in fact a "rescue" then that is different.

Seeing as you actively sought a dog who was debarked, you are not off the moral hook.

Look man, you know how much I love dogs, and how much I cherished the relationship I had with mine. Much better friend to me than any human all through his lifetime, and the thought of debarking a dog to me is mutilation of something that inherently trusts and loves you.

Mutilation:

mu·ti·late Audio Help/ˈmyutlˌeɪt/Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[myoot-l-eyt]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object), -lat·ed, -lat·ing. 1.to injure, disfigure, or make imperfect by removing or irreparably damaging parts: Vandals mutilated the painting. 2.to deprive (a person or animal) of a limb or other essential part.
[Origin: 1525–35; < L mutilātus (ptp. of mutilāre to cut off, maim), equiv. to mutil(us) maimed, mutilated + -ātus -ate1]

I don't think barking is an "essential'' part if the dog is in a house or yard all the time. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I also stand by what I say

[4X4]

Funny how much you end up loving them. Last year we were camping and I almost got into a fight with another guy over our dogs. I put down my dog's dinner and his dog came over and started eating it. My dog growled a bit and his dog attacked her. Well, she's a lover and not a fighter so she backed off and his stupid mutt attacked her again. I jumped in and booted his mangy mutt in the ribs (not too hard). Dude was pissed. Unfortunately for him I'm quite a bit bigger and and told him that I'd take a round out of him if he didn't get the dumb animal under control. That was that.

(he's actually my friend. We were a bit angry at each other for a couple hours but I apologized and it was ok)

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by BuzzardsWife

I don't think barking is an "essential'' part if the dog is in a house or yard all the time. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I also stand by what I say

So....when your kids won't stop screaming are you going to debark them too?

Just because something is not human, and their "voice" of no direct benefit to you DOES NOT give you the right to "debark" them for your own convinience and reputation.

It is mutilation. In nature, dogs need their voices to survive. They are pack animals that communicate vocally. With other dogs, or with humans.

I really thought this argument was over, because its never going to be resolved.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Funny how much you end up loving them. Last year we were camping and I almost got into a fight with another guy over our dogs. I put down my dog's dinner and his dog came over and started eating it. My dog growled a bit and his dog attacked her. Well, she's a lover and not a fighter so she backed off and his stupid mutt attacked her again. I jumped in and booted his mangy mutt in the ribs (not too hard). Dude was pissed. Unfortunately for him I'm quite a bit bigger and and told him that I'd take a round out of him if he didn't get the dumb animal under control. That was that.

(he's actually my friend. We were a bit angry at each other for a couple hours but I apologized and it was ok)

LOL. I remember camping this one time, and there was a terrible thunderstorm in the middle of the night. Only thing that ever scared my dog was the vet (who forgets an enima?) and thunder. So its the middle of the night and I wake up to Murphy licking me on the head and whining to go outside.

Now its raining like hell, and I tell him to go back to sleep because I know he's scared of storms and ????????????

So he whines some more, and so I let him out. HUGE thunderclap goes right away, and he starts tearing around the campsite on a mad sprint barking insanely! Before he's soaked through, I manage to put him to bed in the van, and go back to the tent.

I wake up the next morning and he's asleep sitting upright in the driver's seat with his hands on the wheel and his head off to the side against the window.

Priceless!

*** The one person that ever tried to force me into using a leash (like it was any of their business) got up in my face, and then had me ream him like he probably hadn't had it in 20 years. Funny thing is that my dog was barking at him the whole time too. Double barrell!

[4X4]

Awesome story... Got a pic of that?

[Russic]

Friends of a friend just picked up a rottie puppy. I think a rottie puppy and a burmese mountain puppy should have a cage match to sees who's more adorable.

[Traditional_Ale]

Unfortunately I didn't have a camera. But here is my Facebook pic:

http://photos-771.ll.facebook.com/ph...40519_7670.jpg

[stang]

Nice pic 4x4...

My daughter will ride my dog like a horse too. I put her up there sometimes right now and just hold her there and they both seem to enjoy it... its just a little too far too the ground yet.

When I got my dog we had got 2 from the same litter. (Dad was a Rotty Ma was a Husky) When my daughter was born I bought them both harnesses and started teaching them to pull the wagon in anticipation for the winter to pull a little sled for my girl.

Too bad we had to put one down (the Husky looking one,) they were great dogs.

Puppys

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9...7396896ww4.jpg

Older about 1.5 years here..

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7...7604148fx6.jpg

Enjoying the birthday party

http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?i...5751082ra9.jpg