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Eastern Girl · 12-09-2005, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 4X4

Why is it so hard to believe that heterosexual men just want to see female gen.? It's not a phobia. Or maybe it is. Whatever, is there something wrong with a natural desire to only be interested in the opposite sex? I know we live in these enlightened days where men fifth basing is commonplace and socially acceptable, but is it now socially unacceptable to not want to see it, or even spend two hours in front of a screen that alludes to it?

There is nothing wrong with just liking the female body. Go right ahead. I am not questioning why guys like lesbians (although I do sorta wonder sometimes). What I find funny is the difference in reactions between men and women when confronted with sex between two people of the same sex. Women in general, are all right. Men get all squirmy and uncomfortable. I just want to know why that is... that's all.

Fozzie_DeBear · 12-09-2005, 04:52 PM

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transplant99 · 12-09-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Eastern Girl

I don't understand why guys get all worked up about this stuff! Not a big deal. There are so many films with gratuitous lesbian scenes that I have sat through, why can't men do it?

Oh and its unbelievable that even in a movie about gay men, there has to be a topless woman! And Anne Hathaway of all people! Wasn't she in the Princess Diaries?! Doesn't seem right!

Men are ugly...women are the opposite.

4X4 · 12-09-2005, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

Men are ugly...women are the opposite.

Huh... I was in the middle of a big explanation when I was interrupted. This is pretty much what I was going to say. Way to paraphrase.

4X4 · 12-09-2005, 04:58 PM

And you can take that to the bank... It's been said by none other than... Tranny...

Eastern Girl · 12-09-2005, 04:59 PM

Well I like mens bodies. I think we should be seeing more of them on the big screen.

4X4 · 12-09-2005, 05:08 PM

Mens bodies are all over the place. From Independence Day to CSI, men are getting their bodies plastered just as much as females. You only notice the females for the same reason I only notice the females... Nicer to look at. hehehe

@theCBE · 12-09-2005, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Eastern Girl

Well I like mens bodies. I think we should be seeing more of them on the big screen.

I would say that the only reason you like mens bodies is because you are biologically hardwired to be attracted to them .. its an inate desire to find the most suitable male and pro-create. Aside from that men aren't much to look at though, they have hair coming out of just about everywhere, funny looking sex organs etc.

On the other hand Men are attacted to women for the same biological reason but there is the added bonus is that women are artistically appealing. Nice curves, delicate features mostly hairless (hopefully), the fact is even if we weren't sexually attracted to them we would still find them beautiful

An example would be .. you rarley find a guy that would notice the difference between a good looking dude and and ugly one the first time they meet them (mostly.. even a dog can tell you ricci's ugly)

However its my experience that most girls when they meet someone male or female will notice whether they are pretty/handsome or not .. point is even girls notice hot girls as well as guys.. guys only notice hot girls

its just a long winded version of what tranny said

FireFly · 12-09-2005, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 4X4

Maybe we see more girl girl sex is because girl bodies are beautiful to look at. Sexy, curvy females without hairy asses... Need I say more?

Both bodies are beautiful for their own reasons. I happen to enjoy a hairy ass once in a while...

Hakan · 12-09-2005, 06:22 PM

I have no problem watching two guys make out. I don't find it sexually attractive but I don't find it disgusting. Initially it's shocking because we're indoctrinated to think that it's dirty or wrong or whatever but once you realize that the significance of it amounts to nothing then it doesn't bother you.

Alot of it has to do with closet homophobia as well. If you watch that then you may be gay or something. Laugh, what rot! You'd know if you were gay well before seeing two guys kiss.

I've watched gay pornos, went to the male strippers with my girlfriends etc. If anything it makes meeting women easier. The gay bar is the best place to pick up straight women.

Reaper · 12-09-2005, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan

I'd see it, but I would bring dumbells and do bicep curls the whole time

Make sure you wear your assless leather chaps, too.

4X4 · 12-09-2005, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hakan

I have no problem watching two guys make out. I don't find it sexually attractive but I don't find it disgusting. Initially it's shocking because we're indoctrinated to think that it's dirty or wrong or whatever but once you realize that the significance of it amounts to nothing then it doesn't bother you.

Alot of it has to do with closet homophobia as well. If you watch that then you may be gay or something. Laugh, what rot! You'd know if you were gay well before seeing two guys kiss.

I've watched gay pornos, went to the male strippers with my girlfriends etc. If anything it makes meeting women easier. The gay bar is the best place to pick up straight women.

Riiiiiiight...

Well good for you. You have fun at the male strippers, Hakan. And give yourself a badge on scout scarf for being comfy watching gay porn with your "girlfriends".

Call me a closet homophobe or an out of the closet homophobe, I'm not cool watching it on teh silver screen, the stage or with all the chicks in the world.

I guess you're just more worldly than I, or any other man that just plain has no desire (or stomach) to see a man hump a man.

4X4 · 12-09-2005, 07:48 PM

For the record, I never thought I'd ever have to defend my queasiness for gay porn on a hockey message board.

Hakan · 12-09-2005, 07:50 PM

What about seeing a male stripper makes you uncomfortable?

Eastern Girl · 12-09-2005, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 4X4

For the record, I never thought I'd ever have to defend my queasiness for gay porn on a hockey message board.

LOL.

I am not asking anyone to defend it, I am just asking them to explain it, cause I don't get it.

Hakan · 12-09-2005, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Eastern Girl

LOL.

I am not asking anyone to defend it, I am just asking them to explain it, cause I don't get it.

I don't get it either. I have yet to see a compelling argument.

Guys are ugly, ok fine. Does that mean you flip the channel when you see two animals having sex on the nature channel? Or when you see a really ugly hetero couple kissing do you turn away in disgust like you would when seeing two guys kiss?

There are alot of ugly things out there that don't elicit near the amount of vitriol as seeing two guys kissing. And for the most part, when you see two guys kissing on tv or in the movies they're generally good looking men.

And no, I'm not gay, but yes, I can distinguish between a good and bad looking man.

4X4 · 12-09-2005, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hakan

What about seeing a male stripper makes you uncomfortable?

Umm, the penis. The ass. The man dancing. Is it really a mystery? Is it so out to lunch? So unfathomable? Aren't you the guy that accepts everything? Can't you accept that some guys just don't want to see naked men?

EG, I wasn't directing that at you. I was generally amused by the notion that I'm in a conversation about gay porn etc. on a hockey message board. And yes, I'm fully aware of the fact that I pretty much led myself here.

I really do love the fact taht the OTF has no boundaries. Gay as it may be.

Hakan · 12-09-2005, 08:05 PM

I'm not trying to be accusatory. I was the same way too. Until I realized that it was just a penis and a dancing ass. It was funny, odd, whatever but it wasn't disgusting. I've been in enough locker rooms in my life to be desensitized to it maybe. If you haven't played team sports then maybe you don't know what I'm talking about.

And for sure, I accept that you don't like dancing naked men. That's totally cool. I'm interested in why you don't like it.

You still really haven't given me a good answer as to why you find it uncomfortable.

Tron_fdc · 12-09-2005, 08:07 PM

Funny story. I spent a year in Oz travelling (but mainly drinking) and when I was in Brisbane got roped into going to the male strippers. It was a girls b-day (who I had motives for) so I figured I'd go and see if I could get her a little randy (read:easy).

Upon entering I realized a few things.
1) I was in a gay bar
2) I was the lone male with 3 females
3) The guy on stage was dressed as Michael Jackson and stripping to "Beat it".

After a while it wasn't really a big deal though. The dudes knew I wasn't into them, and I spent the night drinking, playing pool, carrying on with a bunch of chicks that had no other prospect EXCEPT ME. So yes, the peelers got them worked up, and yes it lead to "stuff".

After realizing the great success I had at the gay bar, I started going (with a few other guys) to the local ladies night that put on male stripper Fridays. It was insane.....the women there would be groping these lubed up cheeseballs all night, getting crazy (waaaay worse than guys get) and when they (the women) went for a drink there was Tron at the Bar, wearing his best (only) collared shirt ready and willing to swoop up any nd all of the salivating vixens I could.

flamefan74 · 12-09-2005, 08:09 PM

I have to join 4X4's camp. Maybe I am a homophobe, maybe not, just not something I care to see. Plus it's about cowboys and I don't like cowboys.