[Trade] Ducks trade Ondrej Kase to Boston for Backes (25% retained), 1st, and Axel Andersson

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good pickup for the B's. Big upgrade for that 2nd line.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Why are 1st round and 2nd round picks only super valuable assets around here if we are talking about the Flames picks? Another team gives up a first and everyone starts Seinfelding the assets: "we'll really it's more like a 2nd round pick than a first...........a 3rd actually if you look at it practically"

Well for two reasons mostly.

1) Boston has drafted in the first round 7 times in the last 5 years. The Flames have drafted in the first round 3 times in the last five years.

2) If the playoffs start today Bostons pick would be 29th at earliest. The Flames pick 13th at earliest. The difference in calibre of player ( in this draft specifically) is very high).

[transplant99]

That is a steep price..Andersson certainly isnt just a throw in piece.

Gives the Bruins something they need though and they are obviously in win-now mode. Makes sense for them at that level.

really glad BT didnt pay that sort of price for a relatively unproven guy.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

What's the equivalent deal from the Flames.
Did you want BT to trade a 1st for Ondrej Kase?

We don't have a comparable contract dump to Backes. I would gladly trade a 2nd + for Kase alone though. He checks all the boxes we need and want as an organization. The retention in this deal makes things a little closer, which i didn't initially see.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don't know what the equivalent deal from the Flames even would have been.

There is no equivalent deal from the flames IMO.

[Saqe]

So Anaheim gets:



First rounder for Backes


Andersson for Kase

[Flash Walken]

Carrying a 6 million dollar anchor probably cost Boston the cup last year, so lesson learned I guess.

[Geeoff]

Hmmm I would've given up 2nd+prospect+no bad contract


But I guess Anaheim doesn't foresee themselves needing the cap space

[Dan403]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Treliving dropped the ball once again.

Hell no. That was a huge payment.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Saqe

So Anaheim gets:



First rounder for Backes


Andersson for Kase

More like 1st for Kase

Andersson to lesson the blow of taking Backes.

[Geeoff]

Anyway, Kase was a 7th round pick... That is some nice asset management by the Ducks 0_O

[SuperMatt18]

I don't get this for the Ducks.

That not a good return for them to take on Backes contract, while also shipping out Kase.

1st and 2nd (equivalent) to take on a cap dump and Kase. That's horrible.

Edit: I didn't realize Backes only had 1 year left on that contract, could have sworn it was longer and closer to the length of Lucic's deal.

[united]

...that's it?!

Wonderful deal for the Bruins, picking up a legitimate middle-six right wing signed to a reasonable deal that expires with the team still having rights control. Kase will fit in very nicely with that Bruins team and should be a fixture in their top six next season, if not this season, and going forward.

A very late first-round pick, probably their ~15th-rated prospect who has kind of stalled in development, and ditching an albatross contract that is on the books for next year too.

Marvelous deal by Don Sweeney. Thankfully Kase moves east before his true breakout.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Dan403

Hell no. That was a huge payment.

I don't agree. They essentially traded Andersson (a mid second rounder from 2018) for Kase. Even with retention Backes is a 4.5M dollar cap dump for the remainder of this year and next and as we all know cap space is a seriously important commodity in the game today. We saw the price Toronto had to pay to free up space with Marleau.

It's a no brainer trade for Boston. Kase is a tenacious, cost controlled, defensively responsible, playdriving right winger that can score 20-25 goals. He is a risk solely due to his injuries. He fits that team and system to a T.

[TheIronMaiden]

It is important to note that Kase is not a sure thing. He has yet to play an entire NHL season.

[loob job]

Not sure why people have a hard on for Kase, i wouldn't give up much to get a guy who is on pace for 38 points this year as a 24 year old. He has similar numbers as Dillon Dube this year who is 21.
49 games 7 goals 16 assists
Dube has 36 games 5 goals 10 assists.
Glad we didn't give up a lot to get him.

[Toonage]

Look at it this way. He'd be a top 6 in Calgary. He's a depth piece in Boston.

[TheIronMaiden]

Axel Andersson, RHD, 19 (Moncton Wildcats)

Because Jordan Spence runs Moncton’s first power play unit, Andersson’s ability to put up big numbers in his first QMJHL season have been limited. The strength of his game is his passing. Andersson sees the ice really well, has enough patience to wait for seams to open and handles the puck well. While he doesn’t have game-breaking offensive upside, he plays an efficient game at both ends. I’ll be keeping a close eye on his progression this season because he’ll get to play in some high pressure situations on a Wildcats team that has what it takes to win the Memorial Cup. He’ll need to take some big steps to go from intriguing to something more than that, though.

https://theathletic.com/1464556/2020...ch&search_text

“He’s still young and looks like a young kid,” said Bruins player development coordinator Jamie Langenbrunner. “He played in the second division in Sweden and had a little bit of a rough start offensively, probably trying (not) to make a mistake. He played in the pros as an 18-year-old and you’re going to be a little bit cautious, and he was.”

https://theathletic.com/1049432/2019...ch&search_text

[TheScorpion]

I assume Backes will play for the Ducks?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by loob job

Not sure why people have a hard on for Kase, i wouldn't give up much to get a guy who is on pace for 38 points this year as a 24 year old. He has similar numbers as Dillon Dube this year who is 21.
49 games 7 goals 16 assists
Dube has 36 games 5 goals 10 assists.
Glad we didn't give up a lot to get him.

Probably because he's shown in the past that he can score 20 goals in a shortened season. RHS doesn't hurt his cause in this league either.

The concussion issues are a huge concern.