[Trade] Zuccarello (30% retained) to Dallas for a cond. 2nd + cond. 3rd

[JonDuke]

I'm not a Zucc fan but wouldve happily paid that price for him.

[Fan in Exile]

Originally Posted by Groot

Definitely could have worded it better but yes, I think the Stars would push easily for #2 WC or 3rd in the central with Zuccarello, making our chances of seeing them in round 1 unlikely.

It's a major leap to think they even make up 6 points to finish 3rd, let alone 11 to finish 2nd - just by adding Zuccarello. I find your analysis....odd.

[spuzzum]

It is quite possible that one condition negates the other condition. No idea if that's possible or not but it would make sense that if one pick becomes a first, the other pick remains the same regardless of what happens.

[Geeoff]

This feels like a bargain for Dallas.

[Fan in Exile]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

This feels like a bargain for Dallas.

Not if it ends up two firsts. I do like the conditional set-up though.

[djsFlames]

2nd and 3rd exactly as rumored. If we had our second we might have done it.

Hayes is a better acquisition.

[sureLoss]

Larry Brooks @NYP_Brooksie
Rangers retaining approximately 25 pct of Zuccarello cap hit/ salary.

edit:

Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun
Rangers are retaining 30 percent of Zuccarello salary in trade with Dallas

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Can already see the CP meltdowns when Trevling does little on trade deadline. Just remember - all the west is trying to catch up to us.

Not me, I'd take nothing over a big overpayment.

[tvp2003]

Was Treliving the first to negotiate a conditional pick depending on whether a team wins two rounds in the playoffs (ie the Kris Russell trade)? Seems like it happens frequently nowadays...

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

I've never been a big Zuccarello fan. Reminds me of cliff ronning. Good guy on average teams. I don't see him as a contributor on an elite team.

Ronning played on some pretty good teams (saw the playoffs in the 12 of his 19 seasons), including the SCFs in 1993/1994 (made it past the 1st round at least 5 times). He was a heck of a player IMO.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

Yikes. I’d rather play Vegas in the first round.

They acquired Mats Zuccarello not Panarin. The guy has as many goals as Jankowski. Stars are a bad matchup for the Flames not because of Zuccarello but because Benn and Seguin own the Flames.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by JonDuke

I'm not a Zucc fan but wouldve happily paid that price for him.

I wouldn't want to pay a first for him

[TBone290]

Aaaaand watch the Stars miss the playoffs

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

They acquired Mats Zuccarello not Panarin. The guy has as many goals as Jankowski. Stars are a bad matchup for the Flames not because of Zuccarello but because Benn and Seguin own the Flames.

Tad bit disingenuous.

Last six seasons
442 GP
102 goals
216 assists

On average that's a 19 goal, 40 assist player. Who in New York regularily saw first D pairs just like Panarin does in CBJ.

Being added to a team that already has a Radulov / Seguin / Benn trio and is one of the better defensive teams in the league with strong goaltending. He's probably going to see easier competition at the very least.

[RT14]

That trade makes a lot more sense for Dallas than for us based off the conditions. Dallas isn’t supposed to make it past two rounds, so the cost of it becoming a 1st is more worth it if it works out well enough for them to do that.

Calgary on the other hand should already be strong enough to make it past the 2nd round so it wouldn’t be nearly as justified.

[Strange Brew]

The Flames version of these picks would not be as valuable as those of Dallas.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Not me, I'd take nothing over a big overpayment.

Same here. I'm pretty happy with the team as it exists today.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Fan in Exile

It's a major leap to think they even make up 6 points to finish 3rd, let alone 11 to finish 2nd - just by adding Zuccarello. I find your analysis....odd.

He didn’t say anything about finishing second, and Dallas is already in the #1 WC. I think this trade makes it most likely that they stay there.


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[Phagoof]

I really hope if dallas is 8th we get 2nd and if 7th we get 1st. Really rough 1st round matchup

[SebC]

It's not a conditional second and a conditional third, it's two conditional firsts.